Re: CCIE Hall of Fame . . . . . Missing No.

I have to agree with Tony on this.

Mark Jackson, CCIE#4736

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On Oct 23, 2009, at 12:36 PM, "Antonio Soares" <amsoares_at_netcabo.pt>
wrote:

> Facts:
>
> CCIE Program Announcement: Sept. 27, 1993
> CCIE #1025 - STUART BIGGS: Certification Date 19-Jul-1993
> CCIE #1178 - PEDRO REY: Certification Date 21-Jan-1993
>
> Read as you want.
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Antonio Soares, CCIE #18473 (R&S)
> amsoares_at_netcabo.pt
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nobody_at_groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody_at_groupstudy.com] On Behalf
> Of Tony Varriale
> Sent: sexta-feira, 23 de Outubro de 2009 20:08
> To: ccielab_at_groupstudy.com
> Subject: RE: CCIE Hall of Fame . . . . . Missing No.
>
> You can disagree all you want. There was no official CCIE program
> in January of 1993. The history of the program has been hashed
> out and is fairly well known. The lab and Terry are the beginning
> of the official program. That is recognized by Cisco.
>
> You sent a link that stated the CCIE program was official in August
> of 1993 (which I think some of us knew already). That proves my
> point, not yours.
>
> Actually, your point is that you want your friend to be a CCIE
> before there was a CCIE program. That's great for you but it doesn't
> make it true. It is also reflected in his number.
>
> Congrats on your friend being in an early phase of what (may) became
> the program but don't misrepresent what you think may have
> happened.
>
> They weren't the first CCIEs. They may have been some of the first
> in a program that may have been a precursor to the CCIE program.
>
> tv
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Antonio Soares [mailto:amsoares_at_netcabo.pt]
> Sent: Friday, October 23, 2009 1:51 PM
> To: 'Tony Varriale'; ccielab_at_groupstudy.com
> Subject: RE: CCIE Hall of Fame . . . . . Missing No.
>
> I must disagree. They completed the program as the others:
>
> http://newsroom.cisco.com/dlls/1993/corp_092793.html
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Antonio Soares, CCIE #18473 (R&S)
> amsoares_at_netcabo.pt
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nobody_at_groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody_at_groupstudy.com] On Behalf
> Of Tony Varriale
> Sent: sexta-feira, 23 de Outubro de 2009 19:32
> To: ccielab_at_groupstudy.com
> Subject: RE: CCIE Hall of Fame . . . . . Missing No.
>
> They aren't as they obviously did not take the lab exam in the
> official CCIE program.
>
> The people who took the official and recognized lab first are the
> first CCIEs in the world.
>
> tv
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nobody_at_groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody_at_groupstudy.com] On Behalf
> Of Antonio Soares
> Sent: Friday, October 23, 2009 12:33 PM
> To: 'Marc La Porte'
> Cc: ccielab_at_groupstudy.com
> Subject: RE: CCIE Hall of Fame . . . . . Missing No.
>
> Hello Mark,
>
> Please add my colleague Pedro Rey to your list:
>
> +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> Name Certification Type Certification Number Track
> Certification Status Certification Date
> PEDRO REY CCIE 1178
> Routing and Switching Suspended 21-Jan-1993
> +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>
> You can see that Pedro is an older CCIE than STUART BIGGS, TERRANCE
> SLATTERY and many more that have a lower CCIE Number.
>
> I was talking with Pedro about this and it seems in Europe some
> Engineers were awarded with the Cisco TAC Engineer Certification or
> something similar. The CCIE word came later so these guys got their
> certification renamed CCIE. Of course, their got higher numbers
> but they got their Certification first.
>
> So these are actually the first CCIE's in the World.
>
>
> Thanks.
>
> Regards,
>
> Antonio Soares, CCIE #18473 (R&S)
> amsoares_at_netcabo.pt
>
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