Re: CCIE Hall of Fame . . . . . Missing No.

Tony,

Following your logic and argument, who is the first CCDE? I think we
will agree Ryan Hicks. Now who are the Cisco employees who have
earlier numbers before the program was put into place?

Now think about what you have said and focus on the word "official".
Obviously the certification that Pedro and the other TAC members
earned was at least equivalent and probably the precursor to the CCIE
Lab itself. They just had to get processed but the program recognizes
their certification dates correctly.

Is anything well-known with Cisco?

On Fri, Oct 23, 2009 at 3:07 PM, Tony Varriale
<tvarriale_at_flamboyaninc.com> wrote:
> You can disagree all you want. There was no official CCIE program in
> January of 1993. The history of the program has been hashed out and is
> fairly well known. The lab and Terry are the beginning of the official
> program. That is recognized by Cisco.
>
> You sent a link that stated the CCIE program was official in August of 1993
> (which I think some of us knew already). That proves my point, not yours.
>
> Actually, your point is that you want your friend to be a CCIE before there
> was a CCIE program. That's great for you but it doesn't make it true. It
> is also reflected in his number.
>
> Congrats on your friend being in an early phase of what (may) became the
> program but don't misrepresent what you think may have happened.
>
> They weren't the first CCIEs. They may have been some of the first in a
> program that may have been a precursor to the CCIE program.
>
> tv
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Antonio Soares [mailto:amsoares_at_netcabo.pt]
> Sent: Friday, October 23, 2009 1:51 PM
> To: 'Tony Varriale'; ccielab_at_groupstudy.com
> Subject: RE: CCIE Hall of Fame . . . . . Missing No.
>
> I must disagree. They completed the program as the others:
>
> http://newsroom.cisco.com/dlls/1993/corp_092793.html
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Antonio Soares, CCIE #18473 (R&S)
> amsoares_at_netcabo.pt
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nobody_at_groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody_at_groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of Tony
> Varriale
> Sent: sexta-feira, 23 de Outubro de 2009 19:32
> To: ccielab_at_groupstudy.com
> Subject: RE: CCIE Hall of Fame . . . . . Missing No.
>
> They aren't as they obviously did not take the lab exam in the official CCIE
> program.
>
> The people who took the official and recognized lab first are the first
> CCIEs in the world.
>
> tv
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nobody_at_groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody_at_groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
> Antonio Soares
> Sent: Friday, October 23, 2009 12:33 PM
> To: 'Marc La Porte'
> Cc: ccielab_at_groupstudy.com
> Subject: RE: CCIE Hall of Fame . . . . . Missing No.
>
> Hello Mark,
>
> Please add my colleague Pedro Rey to your list:
>
> +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> Name Certification Type Certification Number Track
> Certification Status Certification Date
> PEDRO REY CCIE 1178
> Routing and Switching Suspended 21-Jan-1993
> +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>
> You can see that Pedro is an older CCIE than STUART BIGGS, TERRANCE SLATTERY
> and many more that have a lower CCIE Number.
>
> I was talking with Pedro about this and it seems in Europe some Engineers
> were awarded with the Cisco TAC Engineer Certification or
> something similar. The CCIE word came later so these guys got their
> certification renamed CCIE. Of course, their got higher numbers
> but they got their Certification first.
>
> So these are actually the first CCIE's in the World.
>
>
> Thanks.
>
> Regards,
>
> Antonio Soares, CCIE #18473 (R&S)
> amsoares_at_netcabo.pt
>
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