Re: CCIE Hall of Fame . . . . . Missing No.

And while I agree with you. The official certification public timeline
is what I myself was using as a base.
We are not prevy to all the behind the scenes ranglings.
So in order for someone to be considered 'Hall of Fame' material,
their body of work or in this case certifications must be public
knowledge. The 5th Beatle never got an award for being with the
Beatles before they made it BIG TIME.
This is all really silly when you boil it down. It's a tis for tat
issue. Tomatoe vs tamatoes.
I say move on, let's continue to help one another get certified,
recertify or whatever. We can all agree to disagree until Cisco says
who the first person was (which they have).
Thanks kindly.

Mark Jackson, CCIE#4736

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On Oct 23, 2009, at 10:22 PM, Johnny B CCIE <jbccie_at_gmail.com> wrote:

> Antonio,
>
> Thank you for bringing this up. You are correct people like Pedro
> passed the TAC Engineer qualfications before the official CCIE Program
> and were later awarded numbers. So technically they got their CCIE
> before Biggs and Slattery, however, Biggs and Slattery received the
> first numbers since this was probably when the program started and
> other Cisco employees were later awarded the CCIE, but since the the
> early numbers were already gone they got the next numbers.
>
> If anyone cares to look the CCDE is currently having a similar story.
> The first CCDE is Ryan Hicks, but there are older CCDEs from the
> previous year and these are the guys on the CCDE development team.
> Note their numbers.
>
> Some of you guys will argue anything.
>
> On Fri, Oct 23, 2009 at 1:33 PM, Antonio Soares
> <amsoares_at_netcabo.pt> wrote:
>> Hello Mark,
>>
>> Please add my colleague Pedro Rey to your list:
>>
>> +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>> Name Certification Type Certification Number
>> Track Certification Status Certification Date
>> PEDRO REY CCIE
>> 1178 Routing and Switching
>> Suspended 21-Jan-1993
>> +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>
>> You can see that Pedro is an older CCIE than STUART BIGGS, TERRANCE
>> SLATTERY and many more that have a lower CCIE Number.
>>
>> I was talking with Pedro about this and it seems in Europe some
>> Engineers were awarded with the Cisco TAC Engineer Certification or
>> something similar. The CCIE word came later so these guys got their
>> certification renamed CCIE. Of course, their got higher numbers
>> but they got their Certification first.
>>
>> So these are actually the first CCIE's in the World.
>>
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Antonio Soares, CCIE #18473 (R&S)
>> amsoares_at_netcabo.pt
>>
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