Agreed.
On Sat, Oct 24, 2009 at 1:42 AM, mark jackson <markcciejackson_at_gmail.com> wrote:
> And while I agree with you. The official certification public timeline
> is what I myself was using as a base.
> We are not prevy to all the behind the scenes ranglings.
> So in order for someone to be considered 'Hall of Fame' material,
> their body of work or in this case certifications must be public
> knowledge. The 5th Beatle never got an award for being with the
> Beatles before they made it BIG TIME.
> This is all really silly when you boil it down. It's a tis for tat
> issue. Tomatoe vs tamatoes.
> I say move on, let's continue to help one another get certified,
> recertify or whatever. We can all agree to disagree until Cisco says
> who the first person was (which they have).
> Thanks kindly.
>
> Mark Jackson, CCIE#4736
>
> Sent from my iPhone
> Please excuse spelling errors
>
> On Oct 23, 2009, at 10:22 PM, Johnny B CCIE <jbccie_at_gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Antonio,
>>
>> Thank you for bringing this up. You are correct people like Pedro
>> passed the TAC Engineer qualfications before the official CCIE Program
>> and were later awarded numbers. So technically they got their CCIE
>> before Biggs and Slattery, however, Biggs and Slattery received the
>> first numbers since this was probably when the program started and
>> other Cisco employees were later awarded the CCIE, but since the the
>> early numbers were already gone they got the next numbers.
>>
>> If anyone cares to look the CCDE is currently having a similar story.
>> The first CCDE is Ryan Hicks, but there are older CCDEs from the
>> previous year and these are the guys on the CCDE development team.
>> Note their numbers.
>>
>> Some of you guys will argue anything.
>>
>> On Fri, Oct 23, 2009 at 1:33 PM, Antonio Soares
>> <amsoares_at_netcabo.pt> wrote:
>>> Hello Mark,
>>>
>>> Please add my colleague Pedro Rey to your list:
>>>
>>> +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>> Name Certification Type Certification Number
>>> Track Certification Status Certification Date
>>> PEDRO REY CCIE
>>> 1178 Routing and Switching
>>> Suspended 21-Jan-1993
>>> +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>>
>>> You can see that Pedro is an older CCIE than STUART BIGGS, TERRANCE
>>> SLATTERY and many more that have a lower CCIE Number.
>>>
>>> I was talking with Pedro about this and it seems in Europe some
>>> Engineers were awarded with the Cisco TAC Engineer Certification or
>>> something similar. The CCIE word came later so these guys got their
>>> certification renamed CCIE. Of course, their got higher numbers
>>> but they got their Certification first.
>>>
>>> So these are actually the first CCIE's in the World.
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> Antonio Soares, CCIE #18473 (R&S)
>>> amsoares_at_netcabo.pt
>>>
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