RE: CCIE Hall of Fame . . . . . Missing No.

Facts:

CCIE Program Announcement: Sept. 27, 1993
CCIE #1025 - STUART BIGGS: Certification Date 19-Jul-1993
CCIE #1178 - PEDRO REY: Certification Date 21-Jan-1993

Read as you want.

Regards,

Antonio Soares, CCIE #18473 (R&S)
amsoares_at_netcabo.pt

-----Original Message-----
From: nobody_at_groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody_at_groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of Tony Varriale
Sent: sexta-feira, 23 de Outubro de 2009 20:08
To: ccielab_at_groupstudy.com
Subject: RE: CCIE Hall of Fame . . . . . Missing No.

You can disagree all you want. There was no official CCIE program in January of 1993. The history of the program has been hashed
out and is fairly well known. The lab and Terry are the beginning of the official program. That is recognized by Cisco.

You sent a link that stated the CCIE program was official in August of 1993 (which I think some of us knew already). That proves my
point, not yours.

Actually, your point is that you want your friend to be a CCIE before there was a CCIE program. That's great for you but it doesn't
make it true. It is also reflected in his number.

Congrats on your friend being in an early phase of what (may) became the program but don't misrepresent what you think may have
happened.

They weren't the first CCIEs. They may have been some of the first in a program that may have been a precursor to the CCIE program.

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-----Original Message-----
From: Antonio Soares [mailto:amsoares_at_netcabo.pt]
Sent: Friday, October 23, 2009 1:51 PM
To: 'Tony Varriale'; ccielab_at_groupstudy.com
Subject: RE: CCIE Hall of Fame . . . . . Missing No.

I must disagree. They completed the program as the others:

http://newsroom.cisco.com/dlls/1993/corp_092793.html

Regards,

Antonio Soares, CCIE #18473 (R&S)
amsoares_at_netcabo.pt

-----Original Message-----
From: nobody_at_groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody_at_groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of Tony Varriale
Sent: sexta-feira, 23 de Outubro de 2009 19:32
To: ccielab_at_groupstudy.com
Subject: RE: CCIE Hall of Fame . . . . . Missing No.

They aren't as they obviously did not take the lab exam in the official CCIE program.

The people who took the official and recognized lab first are the first CCIEs in the world.

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-----Original Message-----
From: nobody_at_groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody_at_groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of Antonio Soares
Sent: Friday, October 23, 2009 12:33 PM
To: 'Marc La Porte'
Cc: ccielab_at_groupstudy.com
Subject: RE: CCIE Hall of Fame . . . . . Missing No.

Hello Mark,

Please add my colleague Pedro Rey to your list:

+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Name Certification Type Certification Number Track
Certification Status Certification Date
PEDRO REY CCIE 1178
Routing and Switching Suspended 21-Jan-1993
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

You can see that Pedro is an older CCIE than STUART BIGGS, TERRANCE SLATTERY and many more that have a lower CCIE Number.

I was talking with Pedro about this and it seems in Europe some Engineers were awarded with the Cisco TAC Engineer Certification or
something similar. The CCIE word came later so these guys got their certification renamed CCIE. Of course, their got higher numbers
but they got their Certification first.

So these are actually the first CCIE's in the World.

Thanks.

Regards,

Antonio Soares, CCIE #18473 (R&S)
amsoares_at_netcabo.pt

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Received on Fri Oct 23 2009 - 20:34:33 ART