Re: CCIE Hall of Fame . . . . . Missing No.

not too sure why people are busting your chops, but its a very
interesting....

On Sat, Oct 24, 2009 at 2:14 PM, Antonio Soares <amsoares_at_netcabo.pt> wrote:

> He received the award from John Chambers and received the medail a few
> weeks/months later. It was a long time ago and he doesn't
> remember very well. But he thinks the dinner with John Chambers was in
> January (Networkers '93 Paris).
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Antonio Soares, CCIE #18473 (R&S)
> amsoares_at_netcabo.pt
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ryan West [mailto:rwest_at_zyedge.com]
> Sent: sabado, 24 de Outubro de 2009 1:39
> To: Antonio Soares; 'mark jackson'
> Cc: 'Tony Varriale'; ccielab_at_groupstudy.com
> Subject: RE: CCIE Hall of Fame . . . . . Missing No.
>
> Antonio,
>
> Did Pedro retake the CCIE or was he awarded the number in hindsight?
>
> -ryan
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nobody_at_groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody_at_groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
> Antonio Soares
> Sent: Friday, October 23, 2009 7:28 PM
> To: 'mark jackson'
> Cc: 'Tony Varriale'; ccielab_at_groupstudy.com
> Subject: RE: CCIE Hall of Fame . . . . . Missing No.
>
> I was just showing the facts, nothing else. And just because someone asked
> me so.
>
> Did you pay attention to the little logo in the award ?
>
> http://www.ccie18473.net/Award.JPG
>
> The true is that the CCIE story we all know is not exactly like that.
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Antonio Soares, CCIE #18473 (R&S)
> amsoares_at_netcabo.pt
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: mark jackson [mailto:markcciejackson_at_gmail.com]
> Sent: sabado, 24 de Outubro de 2009 0:17
> To: Antonio Soares
> Cc: Tony Varriale; <ccielab_at_groupstudy.com>
> Subject: Re: CCIE Hall of Fame . . . . . Missing No.
>
> Dude, excuse the harsh tone but it is clear as vodka to all of us that the
> number shows the actual certification.
> When Pedro got his 'award' it wasn't an actual certification program.
> That is why he got a later number.
> My bigger question is why your feathers are all ruffled over this guy
> Pedro??? Why isn't he out thumping his cause if he feels he
> deserves it? The history has been laid out, the numbers assigned and the
> jello is giggling and the butters is in the fridge.
> Put simply, take it offline and let's get back to the core reason we (the
> people who have achived our digits) are here...to help the
> up and coming achive. Not bark and bicker about 1993.
> Again, sorry to be blunt.
>
> Mark Jackson, CCIE#4736
>
> Sent from my iPhone
> Please excuse spelling errors
>
> On Oct 23, 2009, at 4:09 PM, "Antonio Soares" <amsoares_at_netcabo.pt>
> wrote:
>
> > 1178 is after 1025 but January is before July :)
> >
> > CCIE #1025 - STUART BIGGS: Certification Date 19-Jul-1993 CCIE #1178 -
> > PEDRO REY: Certification Date 21-Jan-1993
> >
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Antonio Soares, CCIE #18473 (R&S)
> > amsoares_at_netcabo.pt
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: mark jackson [mailto:markcciejackson_at_gmail.com]
> > Sent: sexta-feira, 23 de Outubro de 2009 23:58
> > To: Antonio Soares
> > Cc: Tony Varriale; <ccielab_at_groupstudy.com>
> > Subject: Re: CCIE Hall of Fame . . . . . Missing No.
> >
> > I guess I am still lost as to how Pedro is before Stuart??? Stuart's #
> > is 1025 and Pedro's is 1178. 1178 is after 1025. Unless I am off my
> > rocker, this isn't rocket-science.
> > Regardless of date, the numbers are plan to see.
> >
> >
> > Mark Jackson, CCIE#4736
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
> > Please excuse spelling errors
> >
> > On Oct 23, 2009, at 3:19 PM, "Antonio Soares" <amsoares_at_netcabo.pt>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> Ok, i have it. There were about 30 engineers in Europe that took the
> >> program and received this award:
> >>
> >> http://www.ccie18473.net/Award.JPG
> >>
> >> They received this from John Chambers in person in a dinner in
> >> Networks '93 (Paris, France).
> >>
> >> Then they reveived the medail:
> >>
> >> http://www.ccie18473.net/Medail.JPG
> >>
> >> These were the first CCIE's.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Regards,
> >>
> >> Antonio Soares, CCIE #18473 (R&S)
> >> amsoares_at_netcabo.pt
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: nobody_at_groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody_at_groupstudy.com] On Behalf
> >> Of Tony Varriale
> >> Sent: sexta-feira, 23 de Outubro de 2009 21:47
> >> To: ccielab_at_groupstudy.com
> >> Subject: RE: CCIE Hall of Fame . . . . . Missing No.
> >>
> >> Yeah...I see the June/July people. Your friend is 6 months before
> >> that.
> >> That doesn't make sense. Especially since this is the very first
> >> time I've ever heard of this.
> >>
> >> Let's get Pedro to verify his plaque and documentation from Cisco to
> >> see if they made an error. Or, produce names of people that took the
> >> class with him. Since you have access to that, you can focus there.
> >> I'm sure other people on this list will work on finding dates earlier
> >> than June/July.
> >>
> >> tv
> >>
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Antonio Soares [mailto:amsoares_at_netcabo.pt]
> >> Sent: Friday, October 23, 2009 3:35 PM
> >> To: 'Tony Varriale'; ccielab_at_groupstudy.com
> >> Subject: RE: CCIE Hall of Fame . . . . . Missing No.
> >>
> >> More examples:
> >>
> >> Name Certification Type Certification Number Track Certification
> >> Status Certification Date DAVIDE BIANCHINI CCIE 1095 Routing and
> >> Switching Re-certified 04-Jun-1993
> >>
> >> Name Certification Type Certification Number Track Certification
> >> Status Certification Date RENE VAN DER HAUW CCIE 1184 Routing and
> >> Switching Inactive 08-Jul-1993
> >>
> >> Based only on Mark's list:
> >>
> >> http://cciehof.weebly.com/
> >>
> >>
> >> Regards,
> >>
> >> Antonio Soares, CCIE #18473 (R&S)
> >> amsoares_at_netcabo.pt
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: nobody_at_groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody_at_groupstudy.com] On Behalf
> >> Of Tony Varriale
> >> Sent: sexta-feira, 23 de Outubro de 2009 21:11
> >> To: ccielab_at_groupstudy.com
> >> Subject: RE: CCIE Hall of Fame . . . . . Missing No.
> >>
> >> Yes, those are the facts.
> >>
> >> What you have stated previously is not.
> >>
> >> As a side note, the CCIEs just previous and just after your friend
> >> Pedro are all in July of 1993. Think they made a mistake and put Jan
> >> instead of Jul?
> >> I can't find anyone with a date previous to July.
> >>
> >> Since you work with him, did you see his plaque? Would it be too
> >> much to verify the date on it? Or, any names of people that went
> >> through the program in Jan with him so we can verify their numbers
> >> and dates?
> >>
> >> tv
> >>
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: nobody_at_groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody_at_groupstudy.com] On Behalf
> >> Of Antonio Soares
> >> Sent: Friday, October 23, 2009 2:35 PM
> >> To: 'Tony Varriale'; ccielab_at_groupstudy.com
> >> Subject: RE: CCIE Hall of Fame . . . . . Missing No.
> >>
> >> Facts:
> >>
> >> CCIE Program Announcement: Sept. 27, 1993 CCIE #1025 - STUART BIGGS:
> >> Certification Date 19-Jul-1993 CCIE #1178 - PEDRO REY:
> >> Certification Date 21-Jan-1993
> >>
> >> Read as you want.
> >>
> >>
> >> Regards,
> >>
> >> Antonio Soares, CCIE #18473 (R&S)
> >> amsoares_at_netcabo.pt
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: nobody_at_groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody_at_groupstudy.com] On Behalf
> >> Of Tony Varriale
> >> Sent: sexta-feira, 23 de Outubro de 2009 20:08
> >> To: ccielab_at_groupstudy.com
> >> Subject: RE: CCIE Hall of Fame . . . . . Missing No.
> >>
> >> You can disagree all you want. There was no official CCIE program in
> >> January of 1993. The history of the program has been hashed out and
> >> is fairly well known. The lab and Terry are the beginning of the
> >> official program. That is recognized by Cisco.
> >>
> >> You sent a link that stated the CCIE program was official in August
> >> of
> >> 1993 (which I think some of us knew already). That proves my point,
> >> not yours.
> >>
> >> Actually, your point is that you want your friend to be a CCIE before
> >> there was a CCIE program. That's great for you but it doesn't make
> >> it true. It is also reflected in his number.
> >>
> >> Congrats on your friend being in an early phase of what (may) became
> >> the program but don't misrepresent what you think may have happened.
> >>
> >> They weren't the first CCIEs. They may have been some of the first
> >> in a program that may have been a precursor to the CCIE program.
> >>
> >> tv
> >>
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Antonio Soares [mailto:amsoares_at_netcabo.pt]
> >> Sent: Friday, October 23, 2009 1:51 PM
> >> To: 'Tony Varriale'; ccielab_at_groupstudy.com
> >> Subject: RE: CCIE Hall of Fame . . . . . Missing No.
> >>
> >> I must disagree. They completed the program as the others:
> >>
> >> http://newsroom.cisco.com/dlls/1993/corp_092793.html
> >>
> >>
> >> Regards,
> >>
> >> Antonio Soares, CCIE #18473 (R&S)
> >> amsoares_at_netcabo.pt
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: nobody_at_groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody_at_groupstudy.com] On Behalf
> >> Of Tony Varriale
> >> Sent: sexta-feira, 23 de Outubro de 2009 19:32
> >> To: ccielab_at_groupstudy.com
> >> Subject: RE: CCIE Hall of Fame . . . . . Missing No.
> >>
> >> They aren't as they obviously did not take the lab exam in the
> >> official CCIE program.
> >>
> >> The people who took the official and recognized lab first are the
> >> first CCIEs in the world.
> >>
> >> tv
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: nobody_at_groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody_at_groupstudy.com] On Behalf
> >> Of Antonio Soares
> >> Sent: Friday, October 23, 2009 12:33 PM
> >> To: 'Marc La Porte'
> >> Cc: ccielab_at_groupstudy.com
> >> Subject: RE: CCIE Hall of Fame . . . . . Missing No.
> >>
> >> Hello Mark,
> >>
> >> Please add my colleague Pedro Rey to your list:
> >>
> >> +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> >> Name Certification Type Certification Number Track
> >> Certification Status Certification Date
> >> PEDRO REY CCIE 1178
> >> Routing and Switching Suspended 21-Jan-1993
> >> +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> >>
> >> You can see that Pedro is an older CCIE than STUART BIGGS, TERRANCE
> >> SLATTERY and many more that have a lower CCIE Number.
> >>
> >> I was talking with Pedro about this and it seems in Europe some
> >> Engineers were awarded with the Cisco TAC Engineer Certification or
> >> something similar. The CCIE word came later so these guys got their
> >> certification renamed CCIE. Of course, their got higher numbers but
> >> they got their Certification first.
> >>
> >> So these are actually the first CCIE's in the World.
> >>
> >>
> >> Thanks.
> >>
> >> Regards,
> >>
> >> Antonio Soares, CCIE #18473 (R&S)
> >> amsoares_at_netcabo.pt
> >>
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