Re: CCIE Hall of Fame . . . . . Missing No.

No clue.

On 10/23/09, mark jackson <markcciejackson_at_gmail.com> wrote:
> I guess I am still lost as to how Pedro is before Stuart??? Stuart's #
> is 1025 and Pedro's is 1178. 1178 is after 1025. Unless I am off my
> rocker, this isn't rocket-science.
> Regardless of date, the numbers are plan to see.
>
>
> Mark Jackson, CCIE#4736
>
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> Please excuse spelling errors
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> On Oct 23, 2009, at 3:19 PM, "Antonio Soares" <amsoares_at_netcabo.pt>
> wrote:
>
>> Ok, i have it. There were about 30 engineers in Europe that took the
>> program and received this award:
>>
>> http://www.ccie18473.net/Award.JPG
>>
>> They received this from John Chambers in person in a dinner in
>> Networks '93 (Paris, France).
>>
>> Then they reveived the medail:
>>
>> http://www.ccie18473.net/Medail.JPG
>>
>> These were the first CCIE's.
>>
>>
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Antonio Soares, CCIE #18473 (R&S)
>> amsoares_at_netcabo.pt
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nobody_at_groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody_at_groupstudy.com] On Behalf
>> Of Tony Varriale
>> Sent: sexta-feira, 23 de Outubro de 2009 21:47
>> To: ccielab_at_groupstudy.com
>> Subject: RE: CCIE Hall of Fame . . . . . Missing No.
>>
>> Yeah...I see the June/July people. Your friend is 6 months before
>> that.
>> That doesn't make sense. Especially since this is the very first
>> time I've ever heard of this.
>>
>> Let's get Pedro to verify his plaque and documentation from Cisco to
>> see if they made an error. Or, produce names of people that
>> took the class with him. Since you have access to that, you can
>> focus there. I'm sure other people on this list will work on
>> finding dates earlier than June/July.
>>
>> tv
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Antonio Soares [mailto:amsoares_at_netcabo.pt]
>> Sent: Friday, October 23, 2009 3:35 PM
>> To: 'Tony Varriale'; ccielab_at_groupstudy.com
>> Subject: RE: CCIE Hall of Fame . . . . . Missing No.
>>
>> More examples:
>>
>> Name Certification Type Certification Number Track Certification
>> Status Certification Date DAVIDE BIANCHINI CCIE 1095 Routing and
>> Switching Re-certified 04-Jun-1993
>>
>> Name Certification Type Certification Number Track Certification
>> Status Certification Date RENE VAN DER HAUW CCIE 1184 Routing and
>> Switching Inactive 08-Jul-1993
>>
>> Based only on Mark's list:
>>
>> http://cciehof.weebly.com/
>>
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Antonio Soares, CCIE #18473 (R&S)
>> amsoares_at_netcabo.pt
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nobody_at_groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody_at_groupstudy.com] On Behalf
>> Of Tony Varriale
>> Sent: sexta-feira, 23 de Outubro de 2009 21:11
>> To: ccielab_at_groupstudy.com
>> Subject: RE: CCIE Hall of Fame . . . . . Missing No.
>>
>> Yes, those are the facts.
>>
>> What you have stated previously is not.
>>
>> As a side note, the CCIEs just previous and just after your friend
>> Pedro are all in July of 1993. Think they made a mistake and put
>> Jan instead of Jul?
>> I can't find anyone with a date previous to July.
>>
>> Since you work with him, did you see his plaque? Would it be too
>> much to verify the date on it? Or, any names of people that went
>> through the program in Jan with him so we can verify their numbers
>> and dates?
>>
>> tv
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nobody_at_groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody_at_groupstudy.com] On Behalf
>> Of Antonio Soares
>> Sent: Friday, October 23, 2009 2:35 PM
>> To: 'Tony Varriale'; ccielab_at_groupstudy.com
>> Subject: RE: CCIE Hall of Fame . . . . . Missing No.
>>
>> Facts:
>>
>> CCIE Program Announcement: Sept. 27, 1993 CCIE #1025 - STUART BIGGS:
>> Certification Date 19-Jul-1993 CCIE #1178 - PEDRO REY:
>> Certification Date 21-Jan-1993
>>
>> Read as you want.
>>
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Antonio Soares, CCIE #18473 (R&S)
>> amsoares_at_netcabo.pt
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nobody_at_groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody_at_groupstudy.com] On Behalf
>> Of Tony Varriale
>> Sent: sexta-feira, 23 de Outubro de 2009 20:08
>> To: ccielab_at_groupstudy.com
>> Subject: RE: CCIE Hall of Fame . . . . . Missing No.
>>
>> You can disagree all you want. There was no official CCIE program
>> in January of 1993. The history of the program has been hashed
>> out and is fairly well known. The lab and Terry are the beginning
>> of the official program. That is recognized by Cisco.
>>
>> You sent a link that stated the CCIE program was official in August
>> of 1993 (which I think some of us knew already). That proves my
>> point, not yours.
>>
>> Actually, your point is that you want your friend to be a CCIE
>> before there was a CCIE program. That's great for you but it doesn't
>> make it true. It is also reflected in his number.
>>
>> Congrats on your friend being in an early phase of what (may) became
>> the program but don't misrepresent what you think may have
>> happened.
>>
>> They weren't the first CCIEs. They may have been some of the first
>> in a program that may have been a precursor to the CCIE program.
>>
>> tv
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Antonio Soares [mailto:amsoares_at_netcabo.pt]
>> Sent: Friday, October 23, 2009 1:51 PM
>> To: 'Tony Varriale'; ccielab_at_groupstudy.com
>> Subject: RE: CCIE Hall of Fame . . . . . Missing No.
>>
>> I must disagree. They completed the program as the others:
>>
>> http://newsroom.cisco.com/dlls/1993/corp_092793.html
>>
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Antonio Soares, CCIE #18473 (R&S)
>> amsoares_at_netcabo.pt
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nobody_at_groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody_at_groupstudy.com] On Behalf
>> Of Tony Varriale
>> Sent: sexta-feira, 23 de Outubro de 2009 19:32
>> To: ccielab_at_groupstudy.com
>> Subject: RE: CCIE Hall of Fame . . . . . Missing No.
>>
>> They aren't as they obviously did not take the lab exam in the
>> official CCIE program.
>>
>> The people who took the official and recognized lab first are the
>> first CCIEs in the world.
>>
>> tv
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nobody_at_groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody_at_groupstudy.com] On Behalf
>> Of Antonio Soares
>> Sent: Friday, October 23, 2009 12:33 PM
>> To: 'Marc La Porte'
>> Cc: ccielab_at_groupstudy.com
>> Subject: RE: CCIE Hall of Fame . . . . . Missing No.
>>
>> Hello Mark,
>>
>> Please add my colleague Pedro Rey to your list:
>>
>> +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>> Name Certification Type Certification Number Track
>> Certification Status Certification Date
>> PEDRO REY CCIE 1178
>> Routing and Switching Suspended 21-Jan-1993
>> +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>
>> You can see that Pedro is an older CCIE than STUART BIGGS, TERRANCE
>> SLATTERY and many more that have a lower CCIE Number.
>>
>> I was talking with Pedro about this and it seems in Europe some
>> Engineers were awarded with the Cisco TAC Engineer Certification or
>> something similar. The CCIE word came later so these guys got their
>> certification renamed CCIE. Of course, their got higher numbers
>> but they got their Certification first.
>>
>> So these are actually the first CCIE's in the World.
>>
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Antonio Soares, CCIE #18473 (R&S)
>> amsoares_at_netcabo.pt
>>
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