Re: OT (Hint: maybe on-topic if you need to need help)

as Darby said, - the cat is out of the bag now!!

Paul put this cat in-the-bag, i guess :)

BTW, did you miss GS posting at all or you were happy on other boards Darby?

On Sun, May 1, 2011 at 11:01 AM, Darby Weaver <darby.weaver_at_gmail.com>wrote:

> Thanks ole buddy. It's been a while.
>
> On Sat, Apr 30, 2011 at 2:23 PM, oluwaseyi ojo <sameoj_at_gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Darby and his controversial character,welcome back!!!!!
> >
> > On 4/30/11, Steve Di Bias <sdibias_at_gmail.com> wrote:
> > > Darby I wasn't agreeing with you, I was agreeing with Ernest. I'm sure
> > > you're a good guy however bashing vendors in a public forum is just
> plain
> > > wrong. I myself am a customer of one of the "expert" vendors and the
> > > materials, as well as the support that I get are second to none. Marko,
> > > Scott, Narbik, Tyson and all the others are all excellent instructors,
> > and
> > > we should be grateful they exist, all of them have helped me
> tremondously
> > in
> > > my CCIE preperation, as well as my career. However that being said I'm
> > going
> > > back to my studies and disengaging from this worthless thread.
> > >
> > > Cheers!
> > > On Apr 30, 2011 6:30 AM, "Darby Weaver" <darby.weaver_at_gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > >> I totally agree with you guys - those materials that are half baked or
> > > NEVER
> > >> materialize are also uncalled for...
> > >>
> > >> Who remembers buying audio from from one company that was never
> > > finished...
> > >> even after it was discontinued...
> > >>
> > >> Who remembers buying video from the came company for labs...
> apparently
> > > not
> > >> profitable enough for continuation and so it too was abandoned...
> > >>
> > >> But wait!!! Only later the same sets of videos re-appear as a "NEW"
> > >> product... that can be purchased yet again!
> > >>
> > >> That's uncalled for...
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Dude!
> > >>
> > >> Some of these companies that do this kind of stuff really are uncalled
> > for
> > >> and if everyone who gets shucked and jived speaks up about it....
> > >>
> > >> A lot less of us would ever be calling them again.
> > >>
> > >> But, hey.. that's uncalled for.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> None of them would ever call for any of the "stuff" they say or do to
> be
> > >> known publicly... that would be uncalled for.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Anyone else need to more about what and why this kind of stuff is
> > uncalled
> > >> for?
> > >>
> > >> Look back in the day... we took the *Expert companies at their word
> > since
> > >> after all they had "expert" in the work and started with "I" so I'm
> sure
> > > in
> > >> the back of all of our naive minds... we were collectively thinking...
> > if
> > >> "I" learn from these "experts" then one day "I" would be an "expert"
> > > too...
> > >>
> > >> Follow the Master
> > >> Walk Beside the Master
> > >> Be the Master
> > >>
> > >> The problem was and still is that some of these guys... not all of
> > them...
> > >> may have never actually worked on a production network at all or never
> > > were
> > >> "the guy" in the first place and so not all of their well intentioned
> > labs
> > >> are wholely baked or worse... like that one guy who keeps trying to
> > >> undermine an accepted manner of performing a task.... his experiments
> > are
> > > on
> > >> a limited set of equipment - so while what he says may be true for 3-4
> > >> devices or even in a small rack... (which in the example of one of the
> > >> "MYTH" series is clearly mentioned on Cisco's site by the way)... he's
> > >> cluelessly happy thinking he "debunked" a myth or something...
> > >>
> > >> Others read it, respect the guy for whatever reason, and commit that
> to
> > >> their accepted beliefs without really checking the facts...
> > >>
> > >> Dis-Service to the community.
> > >>
> > >> I'd say stuff like that is uncalled for.... totally uncalled for...
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Truthfully - If I were shopping for a class or a vendor at this
> > moment...
> > >> I'd shop around... that's really called for.
> > >>
> > >> Vendors who put people they never heard of or never even attended
> their
> > >> classes bought their products or were totally dis-satisfied with their
> > >> products and then using those people and their CCIE numbers quite
> > > FALSELY...
> > >>
> > >> I'd say that is totally uncalled for.
> > >>
> > >> Check the archives here on GS and use Google to find the slimy
> "*Expert"
> > >> companies who fit the M.O....
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Darby
> > >>
> > >> http://www.darbyslogs.blogspot.com
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> On Sat, Apr 30, 2011 at 3:24 AM, Steve Di Bias <sdibias_at_gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> Agrred, totally uncalled for :/
> > >>> On Apr 29, 2011 10:23 PM, "Ernest McCaleb" <emccaleb_at_gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > >>> > Uncalled for Darby...
> > >>> >
> > >>> > Ernest McCaleb #21508
> > >>> >
> > >>> > - As the diameter of a circle of light increases, so does its
> > >>> circumference
> > >>> > of darkness. --Albert Einstein
> > >>> >
> > >>> >
> > >>> >
> > >>> > On Sat, Apr 30, 2011 at 1:15 AM, Darby Weaver <
> > darby.weaver_at_gmail.com
> > >>> >wrote:
> > >>> >
> > >>> >> Here's the last segment of the Life with Narbik this week.
> > >>> >>
> > >>> >>
> > >>> >>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >
> >
> http://darbyslogs.blogspot.com/2011/04/last-day-at-narbiks-bootcamp-1-800-get.html
> > >>> >>
> > >>> >>
> > >>> >> I had a thought about some of the training videos (or even
> classes)
> > >>> where
> > >>> >> the material/instructor, etc are having difficulty when they don't
> > >>> shave,
> > >>> >> rehearse, or cannot even troubleshoot 2-4 routers on a toplogy
> they
> > >>> created
> > >>> >> or at least should have worked out prior to getting in public in
> > front
> > >>> of
> > >>> >> paying students...
> > >>> >>
> > >>> >> My advice:
> > >>> >>
> > >>> >> 1. If you are one of these instructors - GET HELP - Immediately...
> > > Call
> > >>> >> Narbik (1-800-GET-NARBIK) - It's not too late the class you save
> may
> > > be
> > >>> >> your
> > >>> >> own.
> > >>> >>
> > >>> >> 2. If you are a student... ask the offending training company to
> > send
> > >>> you
> > >>> >> Narbik's class instead of theirs for a repeat of the last time
> they
> > > may
> > >>> >> have
> > >>> >> botched the job (not 100% just a little... every botch costs you
> > >>> >> mistakes...)...
> > >>> >>
> > >>> >>
> > >>> >> I'm writing this as a bit of a joke...
> > >>> >>
> > >>> >> However, I've seen videos where well-known and reputable
> instructors
> > >>> have
> > >>> >> absolutely no sense of professionalism (yawning, unshaven,
> > unprepared
> > >>> >> sometimes), make glaring mistakes... (even in CCNA/CCNP level
> topics
> > > as
> > >>> a
> > >>> >> CCIE no less) and the list goes on and one and on...
> > >>> >>
> > >>> >> I've heard CCIE instructors marvel at Narbik's command retention
> or
> > > even
> > >>> >> scold the man for not using slides... they hate it.
> > >>> >>
> > >>> >> Now watch carefully as some of the pitifully clueless (who are
> > > probably
> > >>> >> guilty as charged) get really upset at me again... for their own
> > >>> >> inadequacy...
> > >>> >>
> > >>> >> If this is you... STOP - GET HELP... Call 1-800-GET-NARBIK today!
> > >>> >>
> > >>> >> Don't let another class of students leave wondering how in the
> hell
> > > you
> > >>> >> were
> > >>> >> going to resolve that problem, why you fast-forwarded the video,
> or
> > >>> worse
> > >>> >> never completed the thing... cause of um... "techncial
> > > difficulties"....
> > >>> >> etc.
> > >>> >>
> > >>> >> And if you need a class - take a moment and think about it...
> > >>> >>
> > >>> >> Talk to your instructor -ask him/her about the competition and be
> > >>> nice...
> > >>> >> ask about all of them you care to and then ask them about Narbik
> and
> > >>> what
> > >>> >> they are going to do better or at least... the best they can do to
> > >>> >> compete... they gotta eat too... and need your dime and support to
> > pay
> > >>> for
> > >>> >> their addiction...
> > >>> >>
> > >>> >>
> > >>> >> Guys... you know who you are... it's your turn... I know you are
> out
> > >>> >> there... speak up - you can unicast... some CCIE instructors know
> > the
> > >>> >> difference.
> > >>> >>
> > >>> >> Darby
> > >>> >>
> > >>> >>
> > >>> >>
> > >>> >>
> > >>> >>
> > >>> >>
> > >>> >>
> > >>> >>
> > >>> >>
> > >>> >>
> > >>> >> --
> > >>> >> Darby Weaver
> > >>> >> Network Engineer
> > >>> >> http://www.darbyslogs.blogspot.com
> > >>> >>
> > >>> >> darbyweaver_at_yahoo.com
> > >>> >>
> > >>> >>
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