From: Jake (jakeczyz@xxxxxxxxx)
Date: Wed Jun 19 2002 - 23:51:08 GMT-3
Well, I guess "paper CCIE" is coming soon. Just like "paper MCSE" became rampan
t after I
earned it by studying my butt off (in addition to a couple years of experience,
of
course).
I swear, why the hell can't they make an effort to keep it secure. I mean,
come on!
How much would it cost per candidate to check some documents, take a picture an
d
thumbprint and put it all on a card with a hologram and microprint. $20 dollars
per
candidate (on the first attempt only)?? $40 maybe even $100. I would be happy t
o pay even
double if they ensured complete security. What's stopping Joe Q. Sixpack from p
aying Mr
CCIE #12345 $10,000 to go pass the test for him. Shit, that's cheaper than most
CCIE
schools cost. I would never do it, but I'm willing to be 50% of the people out
there
would!!! Just look at the emails you guys are getting. And I'm willing to bet
internationally it's even worse! There's places where the CCIE is worth more th
an an
American passport. You figure it out.
Sh*t, Microsoft does a better job securing the MCP and that only costs $120.
Although I haven't yet met an incompetent CCIE, (and I have met people with yea
rs of
experience who don't know jack) I'm still beginning to worry. No wonder the cer
t hasn't
helped my career to date. I really hope someone at Cisco reads this and has an
epiphany.
Otherwise, they'll have to make the test so damn hard to keep it valuable that
the only
people passing it will be the proctors. Why can't they learn anything from Miro
soft's
failure?
Sorry 'bout the tone guys... this stuff pushes my buttons.
J
Pissed-Off CCIE
--- "Treptow, Georg" <gxtrept@qwest.com> wrote:
> They actually looked at your license? I never had to do that in San Jose a
> week ago. I just strolled in and told them that I am who I am. Good enough
> for them - no questions asked.
>
> Georg
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jake [mailto:jakeczyz@yahoo.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, June 19, 2002 8:57 PM
> To: Rahmlow, Howard F.; ccielab@groupstudy.com
> Subject: Re: Odd Emails
>
>
> Hmmm....
> Too bad you can't prosecute people for "intent to cheat" like you can
> prosecute for
> "intent to kill." Otherwise, I would hope for $27 MM a year, Cisco would
> spend some money
> ensuring the security of the exam by having that Thailand ISP investigate
> the IP
> addresses sourcing those emails and prosecute the sneakernets off those
> people. Also, for
> those that have taken the test, did you feel the identity check was solid?
> I'm a balding
> and unshaven twenty-something year old and I have a harder time buying
> cigarettes than I
> did "identifying myself" for the lab exam. For that kind of cash, you'd
> think they'd take
> people's fingerprints or Iris scan or DNA or at least a damn picture... and
> not just have
> some receptionist glance at an out-of-state license.
>
> Any thoughts?
>
> Jake
> Underpaid CCIE #9102
>
> sh me th $
>
>
> --- "Rahmlow, Howard F." <Howard.Rahmlow@unisys.com> wrote:
> > Anyone else on the list getting weird e-mail's like the ones below. I got
> > these 2 today. They were both sent to me not to the list.
> >
> > Howard
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Saiyan [saiyan191@yahoo.com]
> > Can you give an idea how you pass CCIE lab? Such as books, tools and which
> > lab
> > are you getting?
> > (I saw your email in groupstudy)
> >
> > Somchai [loso14@yahoo.com]
> > Hi,
> >
> > I want to upgrade my cisco routers. But don't have new release of the IOS.
> > Can
> > I just get your cco's logon for a while? I'm use it for my ccie exam.
> >
> > Thanks you,
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