From: elping (elpingu@xxxxxxxxxx)
Date: Thu Jun 20 2002 - 01:06:30 GMT-3
hey :
are you saying this because some one you know or heard paid this money for some
one to take
the test for him/her.....?
or is this something you think could happen and is keeping you from sleeping at
night?
don't you think that if you interviewd a paper or weak ccie that you could tell
a mile
away....or in reverse
people have a premintion because they get the CCIE it will solve everything an
d open all
doors for them....think about that when you say
"No wonder the cert hasn't helped my career to date."
Jake : All you have done in rant since you got your cert ...
I ranted when I failed....but it did not help
if you are as good as you sound....your gig will be coming your way .
El ping
Jake wrote:
> Well, I guess "paper CCIE" is coming soon. Just like "paper MCSE" became ramp
ant after I
> earned it by studying my butt off (in addition to a couple years of experienc
e, of
> course).
> I swear, why the hell can't they make an effort to keep it secure. I mea
n, come on!
> How much would it cost per candidate to check some documents, take a picture
and
> thumbprint and put it all on a card with a hologram and microprint. $20 dolla
rs per
> candidate (on the first attempt only)?? $40 maybe even $100. I would be happy
to pay even
> double if they ensured complete security. What's stopping Joe Q. Sixpack from
paying Mr
> CCIE #12345 $10,000 to go pass the test for him. Shit, that's cheaper than mo
st CCIE
> schools cost. I would never do it, but I'm willing to be 50% of the people ou
t there
> would!!! Just look at the emails you guys are getting. And I'm willing to bet
> internationally it's even worse! There's places where the CCIE is worth more
than an
> American passport. You figure it out.
>
> Sh*t, Microsoft does a better job securing the MCP and that only costs $120.
>
> Although I haven't yet met an incompetent CCIE, (and I have met people with y
ears of
> experience who don't know jack) I'm still beginning to worry. No wonder the c
ert hasn't
> helped my career to date. I really hope someone at Cisco reads this and has a
n epiphany.
> Otherwise, they'll have to make the test so damn hard to keep it valuable tha
t the only
> people passing it will be the proctors. Why can't they learn anything from Mi
rosoft's
> failure?
>
> Sorry 'bout the tone guys... this stuff pushes my buttons.
>
> J
> Pissed-Off CCIE
>
> --- "Treptow, Georg" <gxtrept@qwest.com> wrote:
> > They actually looked at your license? I never had to do that in San Jose a
> > week ago. I just strolled in and told them that I am who I am. Good enough
> > for them - no questions asked.
> >
> > Georg
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Jake [mailto:jakeczyz@yahoo.com]
> > Sent: Wednesday, June 19, 2002 8:57 PM
> > To: Rahmlow, Howard F.; ccielab@groupstudy.com
> > Subject: Re: Odd Emails
> >
> >
> > Hmmm....
> > Too bad you can't prosecute people for "intent to cheat" like you can
> > prosecute for
> > "intent to kill." Otherwise, I would hope for $27 MM a year, Cisco would
> > spend some money
> > ensuring the security of the exam by having that Thailand ISP investigate
> > the IP
> > addresses sourcing those emails and prosecute the sneakernets off those
> > people. Also, for
> > those that have taken the test, did you feel the identity check was solid?
> > I'm a balding
> > and unshaven twenty-something year old and I have a harder time buying
> > cigarettes than I
> > did "identifying myself" for the lab exam. For that kind of cash, you'd
> > think they'd take
> > people's fingerprints or Iris scan or DNA or at least a damn picture... and
> > not just have
> > some receptionist glance at an out-of-state license.
> >
> > Any thoughts?
> >
> > Jake
> > Underpaid CCIE #9102
> >
> > sh me th $
> >
> >
> > --- "Rahmlow, Howard F." <Howard.Rahmlow@unisys.com> wrote:
> > > Anyone else on the list getting weird e-mail's like the ones below. I got
> > > these 2 today. They were both sent to me not to the list.
> > >
> > > Howard
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Saiyan [saiyan191@yahoo.com]
> > > Can you give an idea how you pass CCIE lab? Such as books, tools and whic
h
> > > lab
> > > are you getting?
> > > (I saw your email in groupstudy)
> > >
> > > Somchai [loso14@yahoo.com]
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > I want to upgrade my cisco routers. But don't have new release of the IOS
.
> > > Can
> > > I just get your cco's logon for a while? I'm use it for my ccie exam.
> > >
> > > Thanks you,
>
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