From: Danshtr (danshtr@gmail.com)
Date: Sun Jun 10 2007 - 06:42:12 ART
What is the point of doing such a thing? What does it tests?
If the way Cisco test troubleshooting is by removing IOS feature commands
then its very very lame.
If for example they would have changed mtu on ospf interface or configure
distribute list denying all eigrp updates, that I would consider as
troubleshooting.
On 6/10/07, tachin saparia <still2find@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> Similar thing happened with me also.
>
> For an IOS/IP Features question, all the five commands were missing. And
> I found out this thing at the last moment. And yes, it is not the
> "self-induced" thing, cos I configured the commands and saved the
> configuration twice (actually much more than those number of times, but
> before reloading saved the configuration twice, again).
>
> At first I also thought it is a bug, but it wasn't. It was a bug in the
> form of Proctor, that is what i thought. Didn't face this problem in my
> previous attempt. Now since the second attempt is doomed, wonder what is
> going to happen the next time.
>
> Regards,
> ST
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
> Abdul Waheed Ghaffar
> Sent: Sunday, June 10, 2007 1:31 AM
> To: bdennis@internetworkexpert.com; ishelh_mdsa@yahoo.com;
> ccielab@groupstudy.com
> Subject: Re: Attack by Proctor
> Brian,
> I like this "you" under quoted :)
> Abdul Waheed
> CCIE#14010
> >It means that "you" created the problems and not the proctor.
> >
> >--
> >
> >Brian Dennis, CCIE4 #2210 (R&S/ISP-Dial/Security/SP)
> >bdennis@internetworkexpert.com
> >
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> >
> >On 6/9/07 9:22 AM, "ismail el-shalh" wrote:
> >
> Hi Scott,
> >
> What does "self-induced" means?
> >
> >
> >
> Ismail El-Shalh :)
> MMR/MDSA
> >
> >
> >
> >
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: Scott Morris
> To: Paul Dardinski ; Yinglam Cheung
> ; Jinhong Im
> Cc: ccielab@groupstudy.com
> Sent: Saturday, June 9, 2007 7:01:08 PM
> Subject: RE: Attack by Proctor
> >
> Like most of the troubleshooting within the lab, it may have fallen
> >under
> the category of "self-induced".
> >
> >
> Scott Morris, CCIE4 (R&S/ISP-Dial/Security/Service Provider) #4713,
> >JNCIE
> #153, CISSP, et al.
> CCSI/JNCI-M/JNCI-J
> VP - Technical Training - IPexpert, Inc.
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> >
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> >
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> >
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf
> Of
> >Paul
> Dardinski
> Sent: Saturday, June 09, 2007 11:27 AM
> To: Yinglam Cheung; Jinhong Im
> Cc: ccielab@groupstudy.com
> Subject: RE: Attack by Proctor
> >
> Hrmm.....don't remember a proctor even having the slightest interest
> in
> >my
> configs during any lab attempt....
> >
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf
> Of
> Yinglam Cheung
> Sent: Saturday, June 09, 2007 11:12 AM
> To: Jinhong Im
> Cc: ccielab@groupstudy.com
> Subject: Re: Attack by Proctor
> >
> I seldom wrote to the group, but the subject line caught me to take
> a
> >look.
> >
> It would be interesting to know why proctor would get on your router
> to
> check your configurations. AFAIK, proctors don't check candidates'
> configs during the testing time. Did you suspect a bug and ask him
> to
> >check?
> I'd have asked proctor why he erased some configs if I were you.
> >
> In any case you can write to ccie@cisco.com or Cisco Certification
> >Support
> and I believe you can fill out feedbacks after finishing your lab.
> >
> Overall I feel proctors in my CCIE lab experience are very
> professional.
> >
> >
> regards,
> Yinglam
> >
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: Jinhong Im
> To: ccielab@groupstudy.com
> Sent: Friday, June 8, 2007 4:58:38 AM
> Subject: Attack by Proctor
> >
> >
> Hi GS,
> >
> Today I took my 4th R&S test.
> After I checked all my configuration I found the proctor had changed
> too
> many things, left about 20 minutes.
> I really astonished because of too severe attacks by the proctor. He
> >blew
> out the whole BGP configuration on a switch and so many other
> >configurations
> I made. I tried to recover all them, but I couldn't have time to
> check
> >it
> again because the proctor was counting time. So I am not sure it all
> the
> configurations were correct, and finally I found one missing
> >configuration
> and I couldn't be able to complete it because He was saying time was
> >over.
> >
> I think it is too severe attack to cope.
> I would like to know if there is a way to let Cisco know that there
> will
> >be
> few candidates to protect themselves from the attack.
> >
> Any opinion?
> >
> Regards
> /JH
>
>
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