From: Muhammad Nasim (muhammad.nasim@gmail.com)
Date: Sun Jun 10 2007 - 08:22:18 ART
I don't believe that Proctor(s) can change your configuration during the
lab.
If Proctor do like that then it is very painful .
On 6/10/07, Danshtr <danshtr@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> What is the point of doing such a thing? What does it tests?
>
> If the way Cisco test troubleshooting is by removing IOS feature commands
> then its very very lame.
>
> If for example they would have changed mtu on ospf interface or configure
> distribute list denying all eigrp updates, that I would consider as
> troubleshooting.
>
>
> On 6/10/07, tachin saparia <still2find@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >
> > Similar thing happened with me also.
> >
> > For an IOS/IP Features question, all the five commands were missing.
> And
> > I found out this thing at the last moment. And yes, it is not the
> > "self-induced" thing, cos I configured the commands and saved the
> > configuration twice (actually much more than those number of times, but
> > before reloading saved the configuration twice, again).
> >
> > At first I also thought it is a bug, but it wasn't. It was a bug in
> the
> > form of Proctor, that is what i thought. Didn't face this problem in my
> > previous attempt. Now since the second attempt is doomed, wonder what is
> > going to happen the next time.
> >
> > Regards,
> > ST
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
> > Abdul Waheed Ghaffar
> > Sent: Sunday, June 10, 2007 1:31 AM
> > To: bdennis@internetworkexpert.com; ishelh_mdsa@yahoo.com;
> > ccielab@groupstudy.com
> > Subject: Re: Attack by Proctor
> > Brian,
> > I like this "you" under quoted :)
> > Abdul Waheed
> > CCIE#14010
> > >It means that "you" created the problems and not the proctor.
> > >
> > >--
> > >
> > >Brian Dennis, CCIE4 #2210 (R&S/ISP-Dial/Security/SP)
> > >bdennis@internetworkexpert.com
> > >
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> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >On 6/9/07 9:22 AM, "ismail el-shalh" wrote:
> > >
> > Hi Scott,
> > >
> > What does "self-induced" means?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > Ismail El-Shalh :)
> > MMR/MDSA
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > ----- Original Message ----
> > From: Scott Morris
> > To: Paul Dardinski ; Yinglam Cheung
> > ; Jinhong Im
> > Cc: ccielab@groupstudy.com
> > Sent: Saturday, June 9, 2007 7:01:08 PM
> > Subject: RE: Attack by Proctor
> > >
> > Like most of the troubleshooting within the lab, it may have fallen
> > >under
> > the category of "self-induced".
> > >
> > >
> > Scott Morris, CCIE4 (R&S/ISP-Dial/Security/Service Provider) #4713,
> > >JNCIE
> > #153, CISSP, et al.
> > CCSI/JNCI-M/JNCI-J
> > VP - Technical Training - IPexpert, Inc.
> > IPexpert Sr. Technical Instructor
> > >
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> > >
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> > >
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> > >
> > >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf
> > Of
> > >Paul
> > Dardinski
> > Sent: Saturday, June 09, 2007 11:27 AM
> > To: Yinglam Cheung; Jinhong Im
> > Cc: ccielab@groupstudy.com
> > Subject: RE: Attack by Proctor
> > >
> > Hrmm.....don't remember a proctor even having the slightest interest
> > in
> > >my
> > configs during any lab attempt....
> > >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf
> > Of
> > Yinglam Cheung
> > Sent: Saturday, June 09, 2007 11:12 AM
> > To: Jinhong Im
> > Cc: ccielab@groupstudy.com
> > Subject: Re: Attack by Proctor
> > >
> > I seldom wrote to the group, but the subject line caught me to take
> > a
> > >look.
> > >
> > It would be interesting to know why proctor would get on your router
> > to
> > check your configurations. AFAIK, proctors don't check candidates'
> > configs during the testing time. Did you suspect a bug and ask him
> > to
> > >check?
> > I'd have asked proctor why he erased some configs if I were you.
> > >
> > In any case you can write to ccie@cisco.com or Cisco Certification
> > >Support
> > and I believe you can fill out feedbacks after finishing your lab.
> > >
> > Overall I feel proctors in my CCIE lab experience are very
> > professional.
> > >
> > >
> > regards,
> > Yinglam
> > >
> > ----- Original Message ----
> > From: Jinhong Im
> > To: ccielab@groupstudy.com
> > Sent: Friday, June 8, 2007 4:58:38 AM
> > Subject: Attack by Proctor
> > >
> > >
> > Hi GS,
> > >
> > Today I took my 4th R&S test.
> > After I checked all my configuration I found the proctor had changed
> > too
> > many things, left about 20 minutes.
> > I really astonished because of too severe attacks by the proctor. He
> > >blew
> > out the whole BGP configuration on a switch and so many other
> > >configurations
> > I made. I tried to recover all them, but I couldn't have time to
> > check
> > >it
> > again because the proctor was counting time. So I am not sure it all
> > the
> > configurations were correct, and finally I found one missing
> > >configuration
> > and I couldn't be able to complete it because He was saying time was
> > >over.
> > >
> > I think it is too severe attack to cope.
> > I would like to know if there is a way to let Cisco know that there
> > will
> > >be
> > few candidates to protect themselves from the attack.
> > >
> > Any opinion?
> > >
> > Regards
> > /JH
> >
> >
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> --
> Best regards,
> Dan
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-- Muhammad Nasim Network Engineer SISCOM Saudi Arabia
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