From: Digital Yemeni (digital.yemeni@gmail.com)
Date: Sun Jun 10 2007 - 08:34:36 ART
Any proctors here can confirm this to the frightened people here?! ;-)
On 6/10/07, Muhammad Nasim <muhammad.nasim@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I don't believe that Proctor(s) can change your configuration during the
> lab.
>
> If Proctor do like that then it is very painful .
>
>
>
> On 6/10/07, Danshtr <danshtr@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > What is the point of doing such a thing? What does it tests?
> >
> > If the way Cisco test troubleshooting is by removing IOS feature
> commands
> > then its very very lame.
> >
> > If for example they would have changed mtu on ospf interface or
> configure
> > distribute list denying all eigrp updates, that I would consider as
> > troubleshooting.
> >
> >
> > On 6/10/07, tachin saparia <still2find@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > Similar thing happened with me also.
> > >
> > > For an IOS/IP Features question, all the five commands were missing.
> > And
> > > I found out this thing at the last moment. And yes, it is not the
> > > "self-induced" thing, cos I configured the commands and saved the
> > > configuration twice (actually much more than those number of times,
> but
> > > before reloading saved the configuration twice, again).
> > >
> > > At first I also thought it is a bug, but it wasn't. It was a bug in
> > the
> > > form of Proctor, that is what i thought. Didn't face this problem in
> my
> > > previous attempt. Now since the second attempt is doomed, wonder what
> is
> > > going to happen the next time.
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > > ST
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf
> Of
> > > Abdul Waheed Ghaffar
> > > Sent: Sunday, June 10, 2007 1:31 AM
> > > To: bdennis@internetworkexpert.com; ishelh_mdsa@yahoo.com;
> > > ccielab@groupstudy.com
> > > Subject: Re: Attack by Proctor
> > > Brian,
> > > I like this "you" under quoted :)
> > > Abdul Waheed
> > > CCIE#14010
> > > >It means that "you" created the problems and not the proctor.
> > > >
> > > >--
> > > >
> > > >Brian Dennis, CCIE4 #2210 (R&S/ISP-Dial/Security/SP)
> > > >bdennis@internetworkexpert.com
> > > >
> > > >Internetwork Expert, Inc.
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> > > >Direct: 775-745-6404 (Outside the US and Canada)
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >On 6/9/07 9:22 AM, "ismail el-shalh" wrote:
> > > >
> > > Hi Scott,
> > > >
> > > What does "self-induced" means?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > Ismail El-Shalh :)
> > > MMR/MDSA
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > ----- Original Message ----
> > > From: Scott Morris
> > > To: Paul Dardinski ; Yinglam Cheung
> > > ; Jinhong Im
> > > Cc: ccielab@groupstudy.com
> > > Sent: Saturday, June 9, 2007 7:01:08 PM
> > > Subject: RE: Attack by Proctor
> > > >
> > > Like most of the troubleshooting within the lab, it may have fallen
> > > >under
> > > the category of "self-induced".
> > > >
> > > >
> > > Scott Morris, CCIE4 (R&S/ISP-Dial/Security/Service Provider) #4713,
> > > >JNCIE
> > > #153, CISSP, et al.
> > > CCSI/JNCI-M/JNCI-J
> > > VP - Technical Training - IPexpert, Inc.
> > > IPexpert Sr. Technical Instructor
> > > >
> > > A Cisco Learning Partner - We Accept Learning Credits!
> > > >
> > > smorris@ipexpert.com
> > > >
> > > Telephone: +1.810.326.1444
> > > Fax: +1.810.454.0130
> > > http://www.ipexpert.com
> > > >
> > > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf
> > > Of
> > > >Paul
> > > Dardinski
> > > Sent: Saturday, June 09, 2007 11:27 AM
> > > To: Yinglam Cheung; Jinhong Im
> > > Cc: ccielab@groupstudy.com
> > > Subject: RE: Attack by Proctor
> > > >
> > > Hrmm.....don't remember a proctor even having the slightest interest
> > > in
> > > >my
> > > configs during any lab attempt....
> > > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf
> > > Of
> > > Yinglam Cheung
> > > Sent: Saturday, June 09, 2007 11:12 AM
> > > To: Jinhong Im
> > > Cc: ccielab@groupstudy.com
> > > Subject: Re: Attack by Proctor
> > > >
> > > I seldom wrote to the group, but the subject line caught me to take
> > > a
> > > >look.
> > > >
> > > It would be interesting to know why proctor would get on your router
> > > to
> > > check your configurations. AFAIK, proctors don't check candidates'
> > > configs during the testing time. Did you suspect a bug and ask him
> > > to
> > > >check?
> > > I'd have asked proctor why he erased some configs if I were you.
> > > >
> > > In any case you can write to ccie@cisco.com or Cisco Certification
> > > >Support
> > > and I believe you can fill out feedbacks after finishing your lab.
> > > >
> > > Overall I feel proctors in my CCIE lab experience are very
> > > professional.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > regards,
> > > Yinglam
> > > >
> > > ----- Original Message ----
> > > From: Jinhong Im
> > > To: ccielab@groupstudy.com
> > > Sent: Friday, June 8, 2007 4:58:38 AM
> > > Subject: Attack by Proctor
> > > >
> > > >
> > > Hi GS,
> > > >
> > > Today I took my 4th R&S test.
> > > After I checked all my configuration I found the proctor had changed
> > > too
> > > many things, left about 20 minutes.
> > > I really astonished because of too severe attacks by the proctor. He
> > > >blew
> > > out the whole BGP configuration on a switch and so many other
> > > >configurations
> > > I made. I tried to recover all them, but I couldn't have time to
> > > check
> > > >it
> > > again because the proctor was counting time. So I am not sure it all
> > > the
> > > configurations were correct, and finally I found one missing
> > > >configuration
> > > and I couldn't be able to complete it because He was saying time was
> > > >over.
> > > >
> > > I think it is too severe attack to cope.
> > > I would like to know if there is a way to let Cisco know that there
> > > will
> > > >be
> > > few candidates to protect themselves from the attack.
> > > >
> > > Any opinion?
> > > >
> > > Regards
> > > /JH
> > >
> > >
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> > Dan
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> Muhammad Nasim
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-- Best Regards! Digital, CCIE# to be assigned by Cisco when it collects enough $$ out of me! :p
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