RE: CCIE salary in Pakistan

From: Abdul Waheed Ghaffar <a_w_ghaffar_at_hotmail.com>
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 2009 04:21:32 +0000

Dear Atif,

I think it depends on the employer requirement but you can earn 250-350K Rs
plus other benefits like CAR, Fuel allownce, medical etc.

Thanks

> Date: Tue, 25 Aug 2009 01:38:16 +0500
> Subject: Re: CCIE salary in Pakistan
> From: riz.iqbal82_at_gmail.com
> To: martin_at_kiefer.dk
> CC: darby.weaver_at_gmail.com; ccielab_at_groupstudy.com
>
> dear atif,
>
> let me know where are you working these days. than i will let know the
> markete in Pakistan for CCIE.
>
> regards
> rizwan
>
> On Tue, Aug 25, 2009 at 12:58 AM, Martin Kiefer <martin_at_kiefer.dk> wrote:
>
> > Hi.
> >
> >
> >
> > I think in overall I agreed what you are saying, you just use a lot more
> > words than I do :-)
> >
> >
> >
> > You just have to remember one thin, having the CCIE number does not make
> > you
> > eligible for the 150-200K USD. I know CCNAs that make these numbers were
I
> > live. It is all about experience and skills!
> >
> >
> >
> > Where I live (Denmark, Europe) we have a 3 months "test-time" when you
get
> > employed. This means, if you are one heck of a poker player and can beat
> > the
> > 200K limit with this, but has poorly or no skills, you won't beat the 3
> > month time-limit :-)
> >
> >
> >
> > " I guess the CCIE Candidate could hack around a bit and find out what
one
> > needs to know in advance."
> >
> >
> >
> > I would say that, if you have 5 years of experience you should know this
by
> > know. Especially if you are working in the networking industry, you
should
> > after 5 years have made relationships with coworkers CCIEs and non CCIEs
> > and
> > have an idea about their salaries.
> >
> >
> >
> > "I guess it all depends."
> >
> >
> >
> > I totally agree, just being a CCIE does not make the money, it all
depends
> > on skills and experience (I know your line is taken out of context :-)
> >
> >
> >
> > "Nothing is worse than settling for $x and loving the job but finding out
> > your peers or not-quite-peers are better compensated than you are. That's
> > frustrating to the max."
> >
> >
> >
> > I cannot agree 100% on this one. If you think you got a good deal
> > negotiating your salary, does it really matter what your coworkers are
paid
> > then?
> >
> >
> >
> > You negotiated that deal based on your own experience and skills, if you
> > then learn your coworkers are paid more, then you have gained more
> > experience and are ready for the negotiating the following year, and if
you
> > at that time can negotiate a better deal, then you have gained more
skills,
> > and are once again ready for the following year. See, it all adds up :-)
> >
> >
> >
> > /Martin
> >
> >
> >
> > From: Darby Weaver [mailto:darby.weaver_at_gmail.com]
> > Sent: 24. august 2009 21:36
> > To: Martin Kiefer
> > Cc: GS CCIE-Lab
> > Subject: Re: CCIE salary in Pakistan
> >
> >
> >
> > Are you sure?
> >
> >
> >
> > I know of CCIE's in the USA who have settled for 50k, 60k, (three
different
> > CCIE's in those cases for three different employers).
> >
> >
> >
> > I know of CCIE's who work for $100k - $125k pretty regularly in the USA.
> >
> >
> >
> > I've heard of others who beat the $135-200k range.
> >
> >
> >
> > I know of CCIE's on contract working for $125-175.00 per hour.
> >
> >
> >
> > I recall a CCIE doing some $10k per day.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > So to say one should know for sure is a little cavalier.
> >
> >
> >
> > The truth is the rate is negotiable and depends on experience. That
> > experience may have little or nothing to do with the job and a lot more
to
> > do with Poker or Blackjack than anything else.
> >
> >
> >
> > Finally, what are you willing to work for in the market given the
> > conditions
> > as they are presented. What will you do if you land in a scenario you
> > cannot live with and must leave?
> >
> >
> >
> > Is the CCIE able to undertake risks of self-employment? Or does the CCIE
> > need the job-security and certainty of a Fortune 500 company (which may
not
> > be very certain any way).
> >
> >
> >
> > I guess it all depends.
> >
> >
> >
> > I guess the CCIE Candidate could hack around a bit and find out what one
> > needs to know in advance.
> >
> >
> >
> > Network with your peers in-person and on-line.
> >
> >
> >
> > Get a feel for things and get paid.
> >
> >
> >
> > Nothing is worse than settling for $x and loving the job but finding out
> > your peers or not-quite-peers are better compensated than you are. That's
> > frustrating to the max.
> >
> >
> >
> > Know your market. Market your knowledge.
> >
> >
> >
> > HINT: Companies seed resumes to feel out the market.
> >
> >
> >
> > Maybe you should do the same with companies when you are not in the
market.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Knowledge is Power.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Aug 24, 2009 at 3:14 PM, Martin Kiefer <martin_at_kiefer.dk> wrote:
> >
> > The quick answer should be 42.
> >
> > On the other hand, with 5 years of experiance and a CCIE number, you
should
> > now have the experience to know what kind of salary you think you are
> > worth,
> > even in Pakistan.
> >
> > /Martin
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: nobody_at_groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody_at_groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
CC
> > IE
> > Sent: 24. august 2009 09:40
> > To: Cisco certification
> > Subject: CCIE salary in Pakistan
> >
> > Hi
> >
> > Anybody from Pakistan an guide, what is the expected salary for a CCIE
with
> > 5 yrs experience.
> >
> > Regards
> > Atif
> >
> >
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