Re: CCIE salary in Pakistan

Just to add some of my experience, first of all now there is no room for
CCIEs in Pakistan, There are lot who could not get a job or working on same
old jobs with same salaries. Secondly I know many ccies who are even ready
to work for Rs. 70K.(less then 1000$ /m)
The things matter now is how much experience one have on vendor side and
second is post CCIE experience.
Frankly speaking CCIE is not a dream certification now. It is easy to
achieve using different materials available on web sites (everybody know
about it).

Asim

On Tue, Aug 25, 2009 at 9:21 AM, Abdul Waheed Ghaffar <
a_w_ghaffar_at_hotmail.com> wrote:

> Dear Atif,
>
>
>
> I think it depends on the employer requirement but you can earn 250-350K Rs
> plus other benefits like CAR, Fuel allownce, medical etc.
>
>
>
> Thanks
>
> > Date: Tue, 25 Aug 2009 01:38:16 +0500
> > Subject: Re: CCIE salary in Pakistan
> > From: riz.iqbal82_at_gmail.com
> > To: martin_at_kiefer.dk
> > CC: darby.weaver_at_gmail.com; ccielab_at_groupstudy.com
> >
> > dear atif,
> >
> > let me know where are you working these days. than i will let know the
> > markete in Pakistan for CCIE.
> >
> > regards
> > rizwan
> >
> > On Tue, Aug 25, 2009 at 12:58 AM, Martin Kiefer <martin_at_kiefer.dk>
> wrote:
> >
> > > Hi.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > I think in overall I agreed what you are saying, you just use a lot
> more
> > > words than I do :-)
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > You just have to remember one thin, having the CCIE number does not
> make
> > > you
> > > eligible for the 150-200K USD. I know CCNAs that make these numbers
> were
> I
> > > live. It is all about experience and skills!
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Where I live (Denmark, Europe) we have a 3 months "test-time" when you
> get
> > > employed. This means, if you are one heck of a poker player and can
> beat
> > > the
> > > 200K limit with this, but has poorly or no skills, you won't beat the 3
> > > month time-limit :-)
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > " I guess the CCIE Candidate could hack around a bit and find out what
> one
> > > needs to know in advance."
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > I would say that, if you have 5 years of experience you should know
> this
> by
> > > know. Especially if you are working in the networking industry, you
> should
> > > after 5 years have made relationships with coworkers CCIEs and non
> CCIEs
> > > and
> > > have an idea about their salaries.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > "I guess it all depends."
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > I totally agree, just being a CCIE does not make the money, it all
> depends
> > > on skills and experience (I know your line is taken out of context :-)
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > "Nothing is worse than settling for $x and loving the job but finding
> out
> > > your peers or not-quite-peers are better compensated than you are.
> That's
> > > frustrating to the max."
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > I cannot agree 100% on this one. If you think you got a good deal
> > > negotiating your salary, does it really matter what your coworkers are
> paid
> > > then?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > You negotiated that deal based on your own experience and skills, if
> you
> > > then learn your coworkers are paid more, then you have gained more
> > > experience and are ready for the negotiating the following year, and if
> you
> > > at that time can negotiate a better deal, then you have gained more
> skills,
> > > and are once again ready for the following year. See, it all adds up
> :-)
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > /Martin
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > From: Darby Weaver [mailto:darby.weaver_at_gmail.com]
> > > Sent: 24. august 2009 21:36
> > > To: Martin Kiefer
> > > Cc: GS CCIE-Lab
> > > Subject: Re: CCIE salary in Pakistan
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Are you sure?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > I know of CCIE's in the USA who have settled for 50k, 60k, (three
> different
> > > CCIE's in those cases for three different employers).
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > I know of CCIE's who work for $100k - $125k pretty regularly in the
> USA.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > I've heard of others who beat the $135-200k range.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > I know of CCIE's on contract working for $125-175.00 per hour.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > I recall a CCIE doing some $10k per day.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > So to say one should know for sure is a little cavalier.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > The truth is the rate is negotiable and depends on experience. That
> > > experience may have little or nothing to do with the job and a lot more
> to
> > > do with Poker or Blackjack than anything else.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Finally, what are you willing to work for in the market given the
> > > conditions
> > > as they are presented. What will you do if you land in a scenario you
> > > cannot live with and must leave?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Is the CCIE able to undertake risks of self-employment? Or does the
> CCIE
> > > need the job-security and certainty of a Fortune 500 company (which may
> not
> > > be very certain any way).
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > I guess it all depends.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > I guess the CCIE Candidate could hack around a bit and find out what
> one
> > > needs to know in advance.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Network with your peers in-person and on-line.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Get a feel for things and get paid.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Nothing is worse than settling for $x and loving the job but finding
> out
> > > your peers or not-quite-peers are better compensated than you are.
> That's
> > > frustrating to the max.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Know your market. Market your knowledge.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > HINT: Companies seed resumes to feel out the market.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Maybe you should do the same with companies when you are not in the
> market.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Knowledge is Power.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Mon, Aug 24, 2009 at 3:14 PM, Martin Kiefer <martin_at_kiefer.dk>
> wrote:
> > >
> > > The quick answer should be 42.
> > >
> > > On the other hand, with 5 years of experiance and a CCIE number, you
> should
> > > now have the experience to know what kind of salary you think you are
> > > worth,
> > > even in Pakistan.
> > >
> > > /Martin
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: nobody_at_groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody_at_groupstudy.com] On Behalf
> Of
> CC
> > > IE
> > > Sent: 24. august 2009 09:40
> > > To: Cisco certification
> > > Subject: CCIE salary in Pakistan
> > >
> > > Hi
> > >
> > > Anybody from Pakistan an guide, what is the expected salary for a CCIE
> with
> > > 5 yrs experience.
> > >
> > > Regards
> > > Atif
> > >
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