From: Muhammad Nasim (muhammad.nasim@gmail.com)
Date: Sat Nov 22 2008 - 11:05:19 ARST
Really are there people in US/Europe who are also badly stuck w.r.t growth.
If this is the case I am satisfied : )
2008/11/22 Darby Weaver <ccie.weaver@gmail.com>
> I know many engineers in the USA facing similar dilemmas, circumstances,
> and
> conditions typically for a lot less salary.
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> On Sat, Nov 22, 2008 at 6:10 AM, Farhan Anwar <farhan.anwar@gmail.com
> >wrote:
>
> > Hi All,
> > I am working in the UAE, and as far as job options are concerned being a
> > CCIE, you don't have any problems for job, but i do agree some companies
> > have freezed their hiring because of the global economic slowdown. But
> the
> > effect here is minimal or not yet started in full swing :), specially in
> oil
> > rich abu dhabi emirate.
> >
> > The place is good with unlimited and unique entertainment, leasure and
> > shopping options. Safety is not an issue. Cars are cheap, like bmw's and
> > range-rovers are mostly the favorites. Fuel is cheap, almost 2.5 USD a
> > gallon.
> >
> > Technically speaking, the problem is most of the people you interact are
> > not of technical background but they are sitting with extremely technical
> > designations and in the end you get frustrated that where the hell you
> are
> > stuck. Specially in Network Design and Security.
> >
> > I have faced some problems when i moved in here and this would also
> answer
> > why now i am trying to move onto the European or US market, let me share
> > with you the problems.
> >
> >
> > - Technical Growth gets stuck, because i barely find any time free to
> > study as the time gets wasted in either commuting or traffic-jams.
> > - On the job, learning is limited as the work is repeated most of the
> > time.
> > - Most of the projects, even the smaller ones have uncapped budgets
> > which defeats the purpose of optimization. For example an average
> company
> > would not have any problems buying up Bluecoat proxysg 8100, even if
> they
> > dont haveany requirements for it.
> >
> >
> > - Traffic, on an average 2 - 4 hours per day you have to get stuck. In
> > my opinion, the time you are spending on street is wasted as its not
> given
> > to work or family. In this case, we usually work 8 hours, may be 10
> hours
> > some times, get 8 hours sleep which barely leaves sometime being spent
> with
> > the family.
> > - You can't find the accommodation in the house-allowance the company
> > gives you. For doing some saving you have to move either to some other
> > emirate and waste more time or move into the accommodation that takes
> 50% of
> > your salary in advance for the full year.
> > - Since their is no train system yet introduced, every expat is buying
> > a car as first priority which is creating traffic, parking and
> saturation
> > issues.
> > - Although there is no Tax on the income but you end up saving the
> same
> > amount of money which you would save in other regions.
> > - The Internet access is still immature and highly dominated by a
> > single player, the average dsl speeds avaiable are 256k, 512k and 1M,
> at the
> > cost of 70 USD per month for 512k with extremely limited upload of
> 128k.
> >
> >
> > Thats all i can think of right now, in the end, it is totally my personal
> > opinion and some people would agree and some may disagree.
> >
> >
> > On 11/22/08, Darby Weaver <ccie.weaver@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> Some people may be having a hiring freeze and others can't fill some
> >> positions. It's a rough battle.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Fri, Nov 21, 2008 at 4:04 PM, Marko Milivojevic <markom@markom.info
> >> >wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >> > Aren't they, like pretty much the rest of the world, in a hiring pause
> >> now?
> >> > :-)
> >> >
> >> > On Fri, Nov 21, 2008 at 12:51, Gary Duncanson
> >> > <garyduncanson@btinternet.com> wrote:
> >> > > Dubai rocks.
> >> > >
> >> > > Any interesting jobs out there unicast me.
> >> > >
> >> > > Regards
> >> > > Gary
> >> > > ----- Original Message ----- From: <sheherezada@gmail.com>
> >> > > To: "Cisco certification" <ccielab@groupstudy.com>
> >> > > Sent: Friday, November 21, 2008 8:46 AM
> >> > > Subject: OT: CCIE Salary Survey
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > >> Both Cisco and IBM are moving their EMEA headquarters to Dubai, as
> I
> >> > >> have heard. So no need to nominate someone.
> >> > >>
> >> > >> Mihai
> >> > >>
> >> > >> On Wed, Nov 19, 2008 at 4:43 PM, Tony Varriale
> >> > >> <tvarriale@flamboyaninc.com> wrote:
> >> > >>>
> >> > >>> Care to share your list? I have not seen one high profile exec
> make
> >> a
> >> > >>> public statement supporting yours (and I don't know of any living
> >> > there).
> >> > >>>
> >> > >>> -----Original Message-----
> >> > >>> From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On
> >> Behalf
> >> > Of
> >> > >>> Darby Weaver
> >> > >>> Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2008 8:36 AM
> >> > >>> To: Felix Nkansah
> >> > >>> Cc: Muhammad Nasim; Jonny English; Administrator; Cyrus; Larry
> >> > Letterman
> >> > >>> (lletterm); Scott Morris; Joseph Brunner; Huzefa;
> >> > ccielab@groupstudy.com
> >> > >>> Subject: Re: CCIE Salary Survey
> >> > >>>
> >> > >>> Think of it like this....
> >> > >>>
> >> > >>> Most super US executives who can... do live or plan to move to
> >> Dubai,
> >> > >>> the
> >> > >>> Internet City or something like that.
> >> > >>>
> >> > >>> It's not what you see on TV, it's Ultra-Modern. Makes cities in
> New
> >> > York
> >> > >>> and California look like the old west.
> >> > >>>
> >> > >>> Ignorance is bliss.
> >> > >>>
> >> > >>>
> >> > >>> On Wed, Nov 19, 2008 at 3:53 AM, Felix Nkansah
> >> > >>> <felixnkansah@gmail.com>wrote:
> >> > >>>
> >> > >>>> Hi,
> >> > >>>>
> >> > >>>> I have been to Dubai a couple of times.
> >> > >>>> It's been rated by some US and UK mags as the most peaceful place
> >> on
> >> > >>>> earth
> >> > >>>> for ten consecutive years. I mean it.
> >> > >>>>
> >> > >>>> At least you're not going to hear of car thefts or robberies. I
> >> feel
> >> > >>>> safer
> >> > >>>> when walking out there.
> >> > >>>>
> >> > >>>> Of course, everything stands out for argument, but this is my
> >> personal
> >> > >>>> observation of Dubai.
> >> > >>>>
> >> > >>>> Only that things are too expensive for my liking.
> >> > >>>>
> >> > >>>> Felix
> >> > >>>>
> >> > >>>>
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> > Farhan.
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