From: Darby Weaver (ccie.weaver@gmail.com)
Date: Sat Nov 22 2008 - 11:02:08 ARST
I know many engineers in the USA facing similar dilemmas, circumstances, and
conditions typically for a lot less salary.
On Sat, Nov 22, 2008 at 6:10 AM, Farhan Anwar <farhan.anwar@gmail.com>wrote:
> Hi All,
> I am working in the UAE, and as far as job options are concerned being a
> CCIE, you don't have any problems for job, but i do agree some companies
> have freezed their hiring because of the global economic slowdown. But the
> effect here is minimal or not yet started in full swing :), specially in oil
> rich abu dhabi emirate.
>
> The place is good with unlimited and unique entertainment, leasure and
> shopping options. Safety is not an issue. Cars are cheap, like bmw's and
> range-rovers are mostly the favorites. Fuel is cheap, almost 2.5 USD a
> gallon.
>
> Technically speaking, the problem is most of the people you interact are
> not of technical background but they are sitting with extremely technical
> designations and in the end you get frustrated that where the hell you are
> stuck. Specially in Network Design and Security.
>
> I have faced some problems when i moved in here and this would also answer
> why now i am trying to move onto the European or US market, let me share
> with you the problems.
>
>
> - Technical Growth gets stuck, because i barely find any time free to
> study as the time gets wasted in either commuting or traffic-jams.
> - On the job, learning is limited as the work is repeated most of the
> time.
> - Most of the projects, even the smaller ones have uncapped budgets
> which defeats the purpose of optimization. For example an average company
> would not have any problems buying up Bluecoat proxysg 8100, even if they
> dont haveany requirements for it.
>
>
> - Traffic, on an average 2 - 4 hours per day you have to get stuck. In
> my opinion, the time you are spending on street is wasted as its not given
> to work or family. In this case, we usually work 8 hours, may be 10 hours
> some times, get 8 hours sleep which barely leaves sometime being spent with
> the family.
> - You can't find the accommodation in the house-allowance the company
> gives you. For doing some saving you have to move either to some other
> emirate and waste more time or move into the accommodation that takes 50% of
> your salary in advance for the full year.
> - Since their is no train system yet introduced, every expat is buying
> a car as first priority which is creating traffic, parking and saturation
> issues.
> - Although there is no Tax on the income but you end up saving the same
> amount of money which you would save in other regions.
> - The Internet access is still immature and highly dominated by a
> single player, the average dsl speeds avaiable are 256k, 512k and 1M, at the
> cost of 70 USD per month for 512k with extremely limited upload of 128k.
>
>
> Thats all i can think of right now, in the end, it is totally my personal
> opinion and some people would agree and some may disagree.
>
>
> On 11/22/08, Darby Weaver <ccie.weaver@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Some people may be having a hiring freeze and others can't fill some
>> positions. It's a rough battle.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Nov 21, 2008 at 4:04 PM, Marko Milivojevic <markom@markom.info
>> >wrote:
>>
>>
>> > Aren't they, like pretty much the rest of the world, in a hiring pause
>> now?
>> > :-)
>> >
>> > On Fri, Nov 21, 2008 at 12:51, Gary Duncanson
>> > <garyduncanson@btinternet.com> wrote:
>> > > Dubai rocks.
>> > >
>> > > Any interesting jobs out there unicast me.
>> > >
>> > > Regards
>> > > Gary
>> > > ----- Original Message ----- From: <sheherezada@gmail.com>
>> > > To: "Cisco certification" <ccielab@groupstudy.com>
>> > > Sent: Friday, November 21, 2008 8:46 AM
>> > > Subject: OT: CCIE Salary Survey
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >> Both Cisco and IBM are moving their EMEA headquarters to Dubai, as I
>> > >> have heard. So no need to nominate someone.
>> > >>
>> > >> Mihai
>> > >>
>> > >> On Wed, Nov 19, 2008 at 4:43 PM, Tony Varriale
>> > >> <tvarriale@flamboyaninc.com> wrote:
>> > >>>
>> > >>> Care to share your list? I have not seen one high profile exec make
>> a
>> > >>> public statement supporting yours (and I don't know of any living
>> > there).
>> > >>>
>> > >>> -----Original Message-----
>> > >>> From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On
>> Behalf
>> > Of
>> > >>> Darby Weaver
>> > >>> Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2008 8:36 AM
>> > >>> To: Felix Nkansah
>> > >>> Cc: Muhammad Nasim; Jonny English; Administrator; Cyrus; Larry
>> > Letterman
>> > >>> (lletterm); Scott Morris; Joseph Brunner; Huzefa;
>> > ccielab@groupstudy.com
>> > >>> Subject: Re: CCIE Salary Survey
>> > >>>
>> > >>> Think of it like this....
>> > >>>
>> > >>> Most super US executives who can... do live or plan to move to
>> Dubai,
>> > >>> the
>> > >>> Internet City or something like that.
>> > >>>
>> > >>> It's not what you see on TV, it's Ultra-Modern. Makes cities in New
>> > York
>> > >>> and California look like the old west.
>> > >>>
>> > >>> Ignorance is bliss.
>> > >>>
>> > >>>
>> > >>> On Wed, Nov 19, 2008 at 3:53 AM, Felix Nkansah
>> > >>> <felixnkansah@gmail.com>wrote:
>> > >>>
>> > >>>> Hi,
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>> I have been to Dubai a couple of times.
>> > >>>> It's been rated by some US and UK mags as the most peaceful place
>> on
>> > >>>> earth
>> > >>>> for ten consecutive years. I mean it.
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>> At least you're not going to hear of car thefts or robberies. I
>> feel
>> > >>>> safer
>> > >>>> when walking out there.
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>> Of course, everything stands out for argument, but this is my
>> personal
>> > >>>> observation of Dubai.
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>> Only that things are too expensive for my liking.
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>> Felix
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>>
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