From: Farhan Anwar (farhan.anwar@gmail.com)
Date: Sat Nov 22 2008 - 17:18:10 ARST
Darby, would you please highlight, the problems, because the only reason i
was considering to move to US is growth and good, projects. I make more than
100,000 USD tax free, but with all the problems listed above. Moving to US
even after the recession is over and the market stability is regained, is
that a good move or not.
On Sat, Nov 22, 2008 at 5:05 PM, Muhammad Nasim <muhammad.nasim@gmail.com>wrote:
> Really are there people in US/Europe who are also badly stuck w.r.t growth.
>
>
> If this is the case I am satisfied : )
>
>
>
> 2008/11/22 Darby Weaver <ccie.weaver@gmail.com>
>
> I know many engineers in the USA facing similar dilemmas, circumstances,
>> and
>> conditions typically for a lot less salary.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Nov 22, 2008 at 6:10 AM, Farhan Anwar <farhan.anwar@gmail.com
>> >wrote:
>>
>> > Hi All,
>> > I am working in the UAE, and as far as job options are concerned being a
>> > CCIE, you don't have any problems for job, but i do agree some companies
>> > have freezed their hiring because of the global economic slowdown. But
>> the
>> > effect here is minimal or not yet started in full swing :), specially in
>> oil
>> > rich abu dhabi emirate.
>> >
>> > The place is good with unlimited and unique entertainment, leasure and
>> > shopping options. Safety is not an issue. Cars are cheap, like bmw's and
>> > range-rovers are mostly the favorites. Fuel is cheap, almost 2.5 USD a
>> > gallon.
>> >
>> > Technically speaking, the problem is most of the people you interact are
>> > not of technical background but they are sitting with extremely
>> technical
>> > designations and in the end you get frustrated that where the hell you
>> are
>> > stuck. Specially in Network Design and Security.
>> >
>> > I have faced some problems when i moved in here and this would also
>> answer
>> > why now i am trying to move onto the European or US market, let me share
>> > with you the problems.
>> >
>> >
>> > - Technical Growth gets stuck, because i barely find any time free to
>> > study as the time gets wasted in either commuting or traffic-jams.
>> > - On the job, learning is limited as the work is repeated most of the
>> > time.
>> > - Most of the projects, even the smaller ones have uncapped budgets
>> > which defeats the purpose of optimization. For example an average
>> company
>> > would not have any problems buying up Bluecoat proxysg 8100, even if
>> they
>> > dont haveany requirements for it.
>> >
>> >
>> > - Traffic, on an average 2 - 4 hours per day you have to get stuck.
>> In
>> > my opinion, the time you are spending on street is wasted as its not
>> given
>> > to work or family. In this case, we usually work 8 hours, may be 10
>> hours
>> > some times, get 8 hours sleep which barely leaves sometime being
>> spent with
>> > the family.
>> > - You can't find the accommodation in the house-allowance the company
>> > gives you. For doing some saving you have to move either to some
>> other
>> > emirate and waste more time or move into the accommodation that takes
>> 50% of
>> > your salary in advance for the full year.
>> > - Since their is no train system yet introduced, every expat is
>> buying
>> > a car as first priority which is creating traffic, parking and
>> saturation
>> > issues.
>> > - Although there is no Tax on the income but you end up saving the
>> same
>> > amount of money which you would save in other regions.
>> > - The Internet access is still immature and highly dominated by a
>> > single player, the average dsl speeds avaiable are 256k, 512k and 1M,
>> at the
>> > cost of 70 USD per month for 512k with extremely limited upload of
>> 128k.
>> >
>> >
>> > Thats all i can think of right now, in the end, it is totally my
>> personal
>> > opinion and some people would agree and some may disagree.
>> >
>> >
>> > On 11/22/08, Darby Weaver <ccie.weaver@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Some people may be having a hiring freeze and others can't fill some
>> >> positions. It's a rough battle.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On Fri, Nov 21, 2008 at 4:04 PM, Marko Milivojevic <markom@markom.info
>> >> >wrote:
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> > Aren't they, like pretty much the rest of the world, in a hiring
>> pause
>> >> now?
>> >> > :-)
>> >> >
>> >> > On Fri, Nov 21, 2008 at 12:51, Gary Duncanson
>> >> > <garyduncanson@btinternet.com> wrote:
>> >> > > Dubai rocks.
>> >> > >
>> >> > > Any interesting jobs out there unicast me.
>> >> > >
>> >> > > Regards
>> >> > > Gary
>> >> > > ----- Original Message ----- From: <sheherezada@gmail.com>
>> >> > > To: "Cisco certification" <ccielab@groupstudy.com>
>> >> > > Sent: Friday, November 21, 2008 8:46 AM
>> >> > > Subject: OT: CCIE Salary Survey
>> >> > >
>> >> > >
>> >> > >> Both Cisco and IBM are moving their EMEA headquarters to Dubai, as
>> I
>> >> > >> have heard. So no need to nominate someone.
>> >> > >>
>> >> > >> Mihai
>> >> > >>
>> >> > >> On Wed, Nov 19, 2008 at 4:43 PM, Tony Varriale
>> >> > >> <tvarriale@flamboyaninc.com> wrote:
>> >> > >>>
>> >> > >>> Care to share your list? I have not seen one high profile exec
>> make
>> >> a
>> >> > >>> public statement supporting yours (and I don't know of any living
>> >> > there).
>> >> > >>>
>> >> > >>> -----Original Message-----
>> >> > >>> From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On
>> >> Behalf
>> >> > Of
>> >> > >>> Darby Weaver
>> >> > >>> Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2008 8:36 AM
>> >> > >>> To: Felix Nkansah
>> >> > >>> Cc: Muhammad Nasim; Jonny English; Administrator; Cyrus; Larry
>> >> > Letterman
>> >> > >>> (lletterm); Scott Morris; Joseph Brunner; Huzefa;
>> >> > ccielab@groupstudy.com
>> >> > >>> Subject: Re: CCIE Salary Survey
>> >> > >>>
>> >> > >>> Think of it like this....
>> >> > >>>
>> >> > >>> Most super US executives who can... do live or plan to move to
>> >> Dubai,
>> >> > >>> the
>> >> > >>> Internet City or something like that.
>> >> > >>>
>> >> > >>> It's not what you see on TV, it's Ultra-Modern. Makes cities in
>> New
>> >> > York
>> >> > >>> and California look like the old west.
>> >> > >>>
>> >> > >>> Ignorance is bliss.
>> >> > >>>
>> >> > >>>
>> >> > >>> On Wed, Nov 19, 2008 at 3:53 AM, Felix Nkansah
>> >> > >>> <felixnkansah@gmail.com>wrote:
>> >> > >>>
>> >> > >>>> Hi,
>> >> > >>>>
>> >> > >>>> I have been to Dubai a couple of times.
>> >> > >>>> It's been rated by some US and UK mags as the most peaceful
>> place
>> >> on
>> >> > >>>> earth
>> >> > >>>> for ten consecutive years. I mean it.
>> >> > >>>>
>> >> > >>>> At least you're not going to hear of car thefts or robberies. I
>> >> feel
>> >> > >>>> safer
>> >> > >>>> when walking out there.
>> >> > >>>>
>> >> > >>>> Of course, everything stands out for argument, but this is my
>> >> personal
>> >> > >>>> observation of Dubai.
>> >> > >>>>
>> >> > >>>> Only that things are too expensive for my liking.
>> >> > >>>>
>> >> > >>>> Felix
>> >> > >>>>
>> >> > >>>>
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