From: Osamah Shaheen (ShaheenO@maaden.com.sa)
Date: Sat Nov 22 2008 - 10:03:19 ARST
We GROWTH DAY AFTER DAY HERE, but you know What!!! I think you know
which growth am talking about... MAN we have to start our project READY
to ATTACK!? :-)
________________________________
From: Muhammad Nasim [mailto:muhammad.nasim@gmail.com]
Sent: Saturday, November 22, 2008 2:39 PM
To: Osamah Shaheen
Cc: Farrukh Haroon; Farhan Anwar; Cisco certification; Marko
Milivojevic; Gary Duncanson; sheherezada@gmail.com; Darby Weaver
Subject: Re: CCIE Salary Survey
I love the honest part of TECHNICAL GROWTH.
The growth is STUCK BADLY and no more growth(now I am getting projects
hopefully growth will start).
For me I have to find work and learn it : )
I am in Riyadh
2008/11/22 Osamah Shaheen <ShaheenO@maaden.com.sa>
Do you know any Good company needs NICE CCIE ENGINEER, if so nominate me
:) and gain 50% of first salary?!!!
This offer for two weeks only
Best regards,
Osama Shahin
CCIE# 22394
-----Original Message-----
From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
Farrukh Haroon
Sent: Saturday, November 22, 2008 2:20 PM
To: Farhan Anwar
Cc: Cisco certification; Marko Milivojevic; Gary Duncanson;
sheherezada@gmail.com; Darby Weaver
Subject: Re: CCIE Salary Survey
You couldn't have said it better Farhan :) Totally agree! (except for
the
US/Europe relocation part.....)
On Sat, Nov 22, 2008 at 2:10 PM, Farhan Anwar
<farhan.anwar@gmail.com>wrote:
> Hi All,
> I am working in the UAE, and as far as job options are concerned being
a
> CCIE, you don't have any problems for job, but i do agree some
companies
> have freezed their hiring because of the global economic slowdown. But
the
> effect here is minimal or not yet started in full swing :), specially
in
> oil
> rich abu dhabi emirate.
>
> The place is good with unlimited and unique entertainment, leasure and
> shopping options. Safety is not an issue. Cars are cheap, like bmw's
and
> range-rovers are mostly the favorites. Fuel is cheap, almost 2.5 USD
a
> gallon.
>
> Technically speaking, the problem is most of the people you interact
are
> not
> of technical background but they are sitting with extremely technical
> designations and in the end you get frustrated that where the hell you
are
> stuck. Specially in Network Design and Security.
>
> I have faced some problems when i moved in here and this would also
answer
> why now i am trying to move onto the European or US market, let me
share
> with you the problems.
>
>
> - Technical Growth gets stuck, because i barely find any time free
to
> study as the time gets wasted in either commuting or traffic-jams.
> - On the job, learning is limited as the work is repeated most of
the
> time.
> - Most of the projects, even the smaller ones have uncapped budgets
which
> defeats the purpose of optimization. For example an average company
would
> not have any problems buying up Bluecoat proxysg 8100, even if they
dont
> haveany requirements for it.
>
>
> - Traffic, on an average 2 - 4 hours per day you have to get stuck.
In my
> opinion, the time you are spending on street is wasted as its not
given
> to
> work or family. In this case, we usually work 8 hours, may be 10
hours
> some
> times, get 8 hours sleep which barely leaves sometime being spent
with
> the
> family.
> - You can't find the accommodation in the house-allowance the
company
> gives you. For doing some saving you have to move either to some
other
> emirate and waste more time or move into the accommodation that
takes 50%
> of
> your salary in advance for the full year.
> - Since their is no train system yet introduced, every expat is
buying a
> car as first priority which is creating traffic, parking and
saturation
> issues.
> - Although there is no Tax on the income but you end up saving the
same
> amount of money which you would save in other regions.
> - The Internet access is still immature and highly dominated by a
single
> player, the average dsl speeds avaiable are 256k, 512k and 1M, at
the
> cost
> of 70 USD per month for 512k with extremely limited upload of 128k.
>
>
> Thats all i can think of right now, in the end, it is totally my
personal
> opinion and some people would agree and some may disagree.
>
> On 11/22/08, Darby Weaver <ccie.weaver@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Some people may be having a hiring freeze and others can't fill some
> > positions. It's a rough battle.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Fri, Nov 21, 2008 at 4:04 PM, Marko Milivojevic
<markom@markom.info
> > >wrote:
> >
> >
> > > Aren't they, like pretty much the rest of the world, in a hiring
pause
> > now?
> > > :-)
> > >
> > > On Fri, Nov 21, 2008 at 12:51, Gary Duncanson
> > > <garyduncanson@btinternet.com> wrote:
> > > > Dubai rocks.
> > > >
> > > > Any interesting jobs out there unicast me.
> > > >
> > > > Regards
> > > > Gary
> > > > ----- Original Message ----- From: <sheherezada@gmail.com>
> > > > To: "Cisco certification" <ccielab@groupstudy.com>
> > > > Sent: Friday, November 21, 2008 8:46 AM
> > > > Subject: OT: CCIE Salary Survey
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >> Both Cisco and IBM are moving their EMEA headquarters to Dubai,
as I
> > > >> have heard. So no need to nominate someone.
> > > >>
> > > >> Mihai
> > > >>
> > > >> On Wed, Nov 19, 2008 at 4:43 PM, Tony Varriale
> > > >> <tvarriale@flamboyaninc.com> wrote:
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Care to share your list? I have not seen one high profile
exec
> make
> > a
> > > >>> public statement supporting yours (and I don't know of any
living
> > > there).
> > > >>>
> > > >>> -----Original Message-----
> > > >>> From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On
> Behalf
> > > Of
> > > >>> Darby Weaver
> > > >>> Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2008 8:36 AM
> > > >>> To: Felix Nkansah
> > > >>> Cc: Muhammad Nasim; Jonny English; Administrator; Cyrus; Larry
> > > Letterman
> > > >>> (lletterm); Scott Morris; Joseph Brunner; Huzefa;
> > > ccielab@groupstudy.com
> > > >>> Subject: Re: CCIE Salary Survey
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Think of it like this....
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Most super US executives who can... do live or plan to move
to
> > Dubai,
> > > >>> the
> > > >>> Internet City or something like that.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> It's not what you see on TV, it's Ultra-Modern. Makes cities
in
> New
> > > York
> > > >>> and California look like the old west.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Ignorance is bliss.
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>> On Wed, Nov 19, 2008 at 3:53 AM, Felix Nkansah
> > > >>> <felixnkansah@gmail.com>wrote:
> > > >>>
> > > >>>> Hi,
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> I have been to Dubai a couple of times.
> > > >>>> It's been rated by some US and UK mags as the most peaceful
place
> on
> > > >>>> earth
> > > >>>> for ten consecutive years. I mean it.
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> At least you're not going to hear of car thefts or robberies.
I
> feel
> > > >>>> safer
> > > >>>> when walking out there.
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> Of course, everything stands out for argument, but this is my
> > personal
> > > >>>> observation of Dubai.
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> Only that things are too expensive for my liking.
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> Felix
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> Blogs and organic groups at http://www.ccie.net
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>
> > >
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