From: Muhammad Nasim (muhammad.nasim@gmail.com)
Date: Sat Nov 22 2008 - 09:39:04 ARST
I love the honest part of TECHNICAL GROWTH.
The growth is STUCK BADLY and no more growth(now I am getting projects
hopefully growth will start).
For me I have to find work and learn it : )
I am in Riyadh
2008/11/22 Osamah Shaheen <ShaheenO@maaden.com.sa>
> Do you know any Good company needs NICE CCIE ENGINEER, if so nominate me
> :) and gain 50% of first salary?!!!
>
> This offer for two weeks only
>
> Best regards,
> Osama Shahin
> CCIE# 22394
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
> Farrukh Haroon
> Sent: Saturday, November 22, 2008 2:20 PM
> To: Farhan Anwar
> Cc: Cisco certification; Marko Milivojevic; Gary Duncanson;
> sheherezada@gmail.com; Darby Weaver
> Subject: Re: CCIE Salary Survey
>
> You couldn't have said it better Farhan :) Totally agree! (except for
> the
> US/Europe relocation part.....)
>
> On Sat, Nov 22, 2008 at 2:10 PM, Farhan Anwar
> <farhan.anwar@gmail.com>wrote:
>
> > Hi All,
> > I am working in the UAE, and as far as job options are concerned being
> a
> > CCIE, you don't have any problems for job, but i do agree some
> companies
> > have freezed their hiring because of the global economic slowdown. But
> the
> > effect here is minimal or not yet started in full swing :), specially
> in
> > oil
> > rich abu dhabi emirate.
> >
> > The place is good with unlimited and unique entertainment, leasure and
> > shopping options. Safety is not an issue. Cars are cheap, like bmw's
> and
> > range-rovers are mostly the favorites. Fuel is cheap, almost 2.5 USD
> a
> > gallon.
> >
> > Technically speaking, the problem is most of the people you interact
> are
> > not
> > of technical background but they are sitting with extremely technical
> > designations and in the end you get frustrated that where the hell you
> are
> > stuck. Specially in Network Design and Security.
> >
> > I have faced some problems when i moved in here and this would also
> answer
> > why now i am trying to move onto the European or US market, let me
> share
> > with you the problems.
> >
> >
> > - Technical Growth gets stuck, because i barely find any time free
> to
> > study as the time gets wasted in either commuting or traffic-jams.
> > - On the job, learning is limited as the work is repeated most of
> the
> > time.
> > - Most of the projects, even the smaller ones have uncapped budgets
> which
> > defeats the purpose of optimization. For example an average company
> would
> > not have any problems buying up Bluecoat proxysg 8100, even if they
> dont
> > haveany requirements for it.
> >
> >
> > - Traffic, on an average 2 - 4 hours per day you have to get stuck.
> In my
> > opinion, the time you are spending on street is wasted as its not
> given
> > to
> > work or family. In this case, we usually work 8 hours, may be 10
> hours
> > some
> > times, get 8 hours sleep which barely leaves sometime being spent
> with
> > the
> > family.
> > - You can't find the accommodation in the house-allowance the
> company
> > gives you. For doing some saving you have to move either to some
> other
> > emirate and waste more time or move into the accommodation that
> takes 50%
> > of
> > your salary in advance for the full year.
> > - Since their is no train system yet introduced, every expat is
> buying a
> > car as first priority which is creating traffic, parking and
> saturation
> > issues.
> > - Although there is no Tax on the income but you end up saving the
> same
> > amount of money which you would save in other regions.
> > - The Internet access is still immature and highly dominated by a
> single
> > player, the average dsl speeds avaiable are 256k, 512k and 1M, at
> the
> > cost
> > of 70 USD per month for 512k with extremely limited upload of 128k.
> >
> >
> > Thats all i can think of right now, in the end, it is totally my
> personal
> > opinion and some people would agree and some may disagree.
> >
> > On 11/22/08, Darby Weaver <ccie.weaver@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > Some people may be having a hiring freeze and others can't fill some
> > > positions. It's a rough battle.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Fri, Nov 21, 2008 at 4:04 PM, Marko Milivojevic
> <markom@markom.info
> > > >wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > > Aren't they, like pretty much the rest of the world, in a hiring
> pause
> > > now?
> > > > :-)
> > > >
> > > > On Fri, Nov 21, 2008 at 12:51, Gary Duncanson
> > > > <garyduncanson@btinternet.com> wrote:
> > > > > Dubai rocks.
> > > > >
> > > > > Any interesting jobs out there unicast me.
> > > > >
> > > > > Regards
> > > > > Gary
> > > > > ----- Original Message ----- From: <sheherezada@gmail.com>
> > > > > To: "Cisco certification" <ccielab@groupstudy.com>
> > > > > Sent: Friday, November 21, 2008 8:46 AM
> > > > > Subject: OT: CCIE Salary Survey
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >> Both Cisco and IBM are moving their EMEA headquarters to Dubai,
> as I
> > > > >> have heard. So no need to nominate someone.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Mihai
> > > > >>
> > > > >> On Wed, Nov 19, 2008 at 4:43 PM, Tony Varriale
> > > > >> <tvarriale@flamboyaninc.com> wrote:
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> Care to share your list? I have not seen one high profile
> exec
> > make
> > > a
> > > > >>> public statement supporting yours (and I don't know of any
> living
> > > > there).
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> -----Original Message-----
> > > > >>> From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On
> > Behalf
> > > > Of
> > > > >>> Darby Weaver
> > > > >>> Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2008 8:36 AM
> > > > >>> To: Felix Nkansah
> > > > >>> Cc: Muhammad Nasim; Jonny English; Administrator; Cyrus; Larry
> > > > Letterman
> > > > >>> (lletterm); Scott Morris; Joseph Brunner; Huzefa;
> > > > ccielab@groupstudy.com
> > > > >>> Subject: Re: CCIE Salary Survey
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> Think of it like this....
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> Most super US executives who can... do live or plan to move
> to
> > > Dubai,
> > > > >>> the
> > > > >>> Internet City or something like that.
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> It's not what you see on TV, it's Ultra-Modern. Makes cities
> in
> > New
> > > > York
> > > > >>> and California look like the old west.
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> Ignorance is bliss.
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> On Wed, Nov 19, 2008 at 3:53 AM, Felix Nkansah
> > > > >>> <felixnkansah@gmail.com>wrote:
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>>> Hi,
> > > > >>>>
> > > > >>>> I have been to Dubai a couple of times.
> > > > >>>> It's been rated by some US and UK mags as the most peaceful
> place
> > on
> > > > >>>> earth
> > > > >>>> for ten consecutive years. I mean it.
> > > > >>>>
> > > > >>>> At least you're not going to hear of car thefts or robberies.
> I
> > feel
> > > > >>>> safer
> > > > >>>> when walking out there.
> > > > >>>>
> > > > >>>> Of course, everything stands out for argument, but this is my
> > > personal
> > > > >>>> observation of Dubai.
> > > > >>>>
> > > > >>>> Only that things are too expensive for my liking.
> > > > >>>>
> > > > >>>> Felix
> > > > >>>>
> > > > >>>>
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> > > > >>>>
> > > > >>>>
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