From: Scott Morris (smorris@ipexpert.com)
Date: Sat Feb 02 2008 - 13:12:13 ARST
There are ways around that part. :) And yes, I'll be at Networkers in
Orlando!
With the SP, you'll find a lot of the basics coming back, but a different
focus as you are using a lot more BGP than in the R&S labs. But take each
technology, play with it in depth, then start adding things together! It's
a process. Any of these tests are!
There are some decent Cisco Press books on MPLS fundamentals and design.
Check 'em out.
Scott
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From: Gobind [mailto:gobind@inbox.com]
Sent: Saturday, February 02, 2008 6:12 AM
To: smorris@ipexpert.com; 'Cisco certification'; 'Narbik Kocharians';
'christian'; 'Darby Weaver'; 'Scott Morris'
Cc: 'Brian McGahan'; bdennis@internetworkexpert.com; ccielab@groupstudy.com
Subject: RE: *Huge Post*..Passed! 20 yr old CCIE # 19910
Importance: High
Thanks,well Scott,the drinking age in India is 18 yrs,I am really happy that
it isnt 21 like US,hehe.I knew because when i was there for my bootcamp in
US,I went to buy beers but could not buy it as I was 19 at that time.
I can't even grab a glass of beer with you guys, if I get a chance at
Networkers in Orlando this year :( (Hope you are coming there)
P.S.:- Any tips for going towards CCIE SP?
--Gobind
CCIE # 19910
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From: smorris@ipexpert.com
Sent: Fri, 1 Feb 2008 20:08:18 -0500
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Subject: RE: *Huge Post*..Passed! 20 yr old CCIE # 19910
Congratulations!!! Too bad you aren't old enough to drink in
celebration!!! (Although, I must admit I have no clue what the drinking age
is on the other side of the Pond!) :)
Go back and spend some time with the girlfriend and family before taking on
another CCIE!
Cheers,
Scott Morris, CCIE4 (R&S/ISP-Dial/Security/Service Provider) #4713, JNCIE-M
#153, JNCIS-ER, CISSP, et al.
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From: Gobind [mailto:gobind@inbox.com]
Sent: Friday, February 01, 2008 6:28 PM
To: Cisco certification; Narbik Kocharians; christian; Darby Weaver; Scott
Morris; Scott Morris
Cc: Brian McGahan; bdennis@internetworkexpert.com; ccielab@groupstudy.com
Subject: *Huge Post*..Passed! 20 yr old CCIE # 19910
Importance: High
Hey Guys!
At last with the blessing of GOD, I manged to pass CCIE exam at
brussels.This was my third attempt.Yea,I am 20 but I am not boasting but
rather feeling proud for this accomplishment in the conditions I been
through while preparing.Its been a long journey.I want to say Thanks to
Brians,Darby for this tips and Scott,Narbik for their endless help rather it
be direct or indirect as most of the help and information I got to my
problems was by searching the old archives and most of the archives were
from Scott and Narbik :).Also want to say thanks to Alexie for his posts in
Netmasclass,the thing in which I was getting which was redistribution,he
pulled out a topic from Group Study posted by Bruce from Netmasterclass way
back,it was huge post on Redistribution which really opened my mind in that
particular area.I can post that link later if someone is interested.Also
want to say thanks to Eric and Bruno,the proctors of Brussels which really
helped me(Cheers! if you are reading this post :) and to Manoj for talking
with me on phone for helping me out in my problems and giving me tips for
the Lab.
This is a Huge post.I just want to tell everyone that never ever give
up!!.Always remember:-
"Winners never Quit & Quitters never win!!"
I struggled a lot during my journey to CCIE.It took me 3 years! I started
studying for CCIE back in 2004 after passing my CCNP when I was just 17.My
career started when I was studying in 9th grade and was working as part time
in my areas's local ISP company.I use to do installations of Modems,cables
for New customers.My interest started to grow after I saw Network Engineer f
our company configuring RIP on Router.My ambition started to grow,I wanted
to be like him,sitting on chair and configuring Network Equiptments
remotely.Then I asked him how to learn those kind of things and then he
recommended me Wendel Odom's CCNA book,that's when my career in Cisco
started.I managed to pass CCNA and started helping that same Engineer in his
work of configuring routeres and learn new things from him.Later on I
managed to pass CCNP.
My hunger for Networking started to grow,that's when I joined a big company
out of the state where I was living,which really helped me in studying.I
worked there and meanwhile started studying for CCIE in 2004.But at that
time was also most worst part because when people use to lookup at me in
India(thats where I worked and grew up) they use to mock me "17 year old kid
doing CCIE?!!! HAHAHA",They use to mock me on my back which also worked as
spilling petrol in fire for me in my studies due to which my determination
grew and I wanted to show them that I can do it.But at that time I was not
upto the mark for CCIE.I took traning in Bangalore,it was 2005 mid by
then.Then I got know about IE's Brian and I saw their sample labs and then I
realized that there was so much out there to learn.But I didnt had that much
finance to pay Brian or for my training.So I made up my mind to work hard
and collect money.After doing 9 to 5 job,I use to Design Websites and do Web
hosting for many customers.
That business really boosted my income and till the ended of 2005 and with
some financial help from my parents I planned to buy my rack and then I
posted at GS in Dec 2005 I believe for getting help for setting up Rack,Then
brian McGahan came forward to help me and I bought full Rack of routers and
CCIE End to End from Brians on which they gave me discount after due to my
financial condition.I am really grateful for them.I started learn
technologies more deeply by studying Brian's COD and their workbook and
meanwhile studying CCIE Practical studies Vol 1 & 2(I already completed
TCP/IP Vol I & II by this time).
But finance was always problem for me,so I had to work meanwhile for
collecting money for CCIE Lab exam.But 2006 wasnt really good year for
me.Due to some personal problems at home I had to sell my rack.My CCIE
written exam was going to be expired.So I gave my written exam again and
then I needed to practise on Rack.But the Rack rentals price for 20-30 days
and training of Bangalore for CCIE turned out to be same,HAHA,So I thought I
should rather go to banglore,this way I got rack access for 1 month physical
access (My employer really helped me and gave me leave).
But then after reading that how people fails in GS,I was really shocked and
I made up my mind to take Bootcamp.My friend Manoj whom I met in GS
recommended me to go Cyscoexpert where Naren Mehta who is Co-Author of Book
"CCIE Routing and Switching Official Exam Certification Guide" and bahram
were giving one to one training in US.So I decided to go there,so I started
collecting money and did various projects meanwhile and did
programming/designing for website,also hosted Live broadcsting events.At
last I was ready to go.
But before going I did Rack rentals from Chris from CiscoLabs,he gave me
Rack in damn cheap price.I am thankful to him.I took my training in US from
CyscoExpert.That training was just awesome! It really helped me and I
thought I was ready for exam and I would pass it.I appeared for my lab on
15th may 2007 at RTP,This was my first attempt and I failed.I was really
shocked that what happened as when i came out of the lab I thought Iwas
passed.It really shook me.I did't knew what to do.I posted my experience in
Lab during then.When i returned back to India,I met those guys again mocking
at me even 2 years after saying that I cant pass the labs.So I felt so
guilty and thought I couldnt pass it and they were right.But my parents
supported and girl friend supported me and told me to give it another
try.After 1 week time my I decided that I wont give up and booked my lab
date on 5th July,2007 in Dubai and guess what I failed again which almost
made me thing that CCIE is not meant for me and I dint even had the courage
to post in GS or appear in GS again.I was really broken in pieces and
started to think that those guys were 100% right that CCIE is unattainable
for Kid/Teenager like me and I dont deserve that.
But after 2 months I really thought that what am I doing?! Even after doing
so much I am quiting?! So finally I decided to give one more attempt again
and see my luck.I decided to take Narbik's bootcamp under his special offer
but due to some personal problems I was not able to attend it.I decided to
do Netmasterclass,Also Chris from CiscoLabs and my old friend Manoj gave me
advise to do it.So I bought Netmaster DoIT and rented Rack from Chirs and
started practicing and whole December I practised DoIT,especially on
Weekends and during Christmas/New Year Holidays.
By this time my lab was booked on January 29th at Brussels.I went to IE's
COD again.Read the redistribution part which really sometimes put me in
trouble from Forum's of DiscussIT of Netmasterclass by Bruce posted by
Alexie,Thanks again for that!! And not to forget my favorite post from Darby
in GS with Subject "Lab Approach - Getting Ready for the 3rd Shot at the
Title" which really helped me in my 3rd shot ;).Thanks Darby for that.I got
problem in many things but it was mostly previously discussed in GS before
and was mostly answered by Scott and Narbik,Thanks Narbik and Scott!!!
I also remember the topic "Attack by proctor" from GS which said the
Proctors esp. in Brussels do attack in rack,many CCIE candidates came
forward and said it.I was also prepared for that even i thought it was
stupid thing,thinking that maybe sometime in middle of m lab I would get
problem,hehe
So the Final day,when i entered the lab I was totally freeked out.I calmed
myself and started my lab and I finished my lab in 5.5 hours which was
really good sign for me,then i verified the solutions from first question
from Question one to last and then came out of the Lab.I left for the
airport from hotel at 5pm.
Now the **Golden Moment**.My Girl Friend called me just after 1 hr 45
mins,after my lab,exactly at 6:15 pm(as she was checking my result) and here
what she said "Sweetheart, 19910.." and she stopped.I understood that were
my digits and I was like NO WAY!,Tears came into my eyes with happiness.I
couldnt believe I passed!! Then i called my parents and gave them the
news.That was the most preciuos moment of my life.I thanked GOD which
blessed me.
As per my expeience in Lab there is nothing known as attack by proctor in
MIDDLE of LAB.And yea Bruno & Eric are not my friends and they neither gave
me Belgian Beer to say this,hehe.
The people which really helped me from Day 1 when I started preparing for
CCIE are Brians which helped me technically and also financially when I
needed help by giving me huge discounts in my bad times. GOD Bless you.
guys!
Maybe I bored you guys with my story.But I just want to tell you that no
matter how hard the time can be if you want to attain something then go for
it,no matter "Whatever it takes".Even in my case I was being mocked due to
my age or even I failed 3 attempts even my financial condition was not good
as I was not earning in $ but in India Ruppee which really makes
difference,believe me.My pay from past 3 years and money which came from my
business of Web Designing/Programming and Broadcasting over IP,all went into
this studies.Yea I was stupid enough for this because I just had this one
aim in front of me.I took two tranings in bangalore,Rented more than 600
hours of Racktime from different vendors,mainly from Chris,Bootcamp in
US,three attempts,End to End from Brians's CCIE and DoIT from
Netmasterclass.I know it looks insane but I was crazy enough to put my 100%
efforts as well as finance in this exam as it was my goal and also shut the
f**k up of those guys who mocked at me due to my age.They use to say that
that they had 12 years of experience(they were CCIE themself) which was
nearly equivant ot my age(I was 17 at that time).I respect that they had so
much experience and had CCIE but they did not had any right to mock at me.
But I have attained what I dreamt for even it took longer than I expected
but I attained it.
My Next Dream .... "CCIE Service Provider"..hehe.. Now I have to dig the way
of studiying for this cerfication.I am going to start studying for it in few
days time.Any advice or guidance would be helpful :).
Thanks again to Alexie,Bahram,Brians,Bruce,Chris,Manoj(Thanks for taking out
time for solving my problems),Naren,Narbik & Scott for their help and
support in whichever way I got from them :)
--Gobind Singh Gill
CCIE # 19910
(Proudly Writing :) )
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