From: Gobind (gobind@inbox.com)
Date: Sat Feb 02 2008 - 13:55:13 ARST
I have already read :-
1.Definitive MPLS Network Designs
2.MPLS and VPN Architecture Vol 1 & 2
3. BGP Design and Implementation
Now looking to buying workbooks and start practise and meanwhile read
books side by side,so checking out different vendors.I found that SP has
advance level of topics in R&S like BGP and additional protocols like
MPLS.
Gobind
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From: smorris@ipexpert.com
Sent: Sat, 2 Feb 2008 10:12:13 -0500
To: gobind@inbox.com, ccielab@groupstudy.com, narbikk@gmail.com,
christian@subfighter.ca, darbyweaver@yahoo.com, swm@emanon.com
Subject: RE: *Huge Post*..Passed! 20 yr old CCIE # 19910
There are ways around that part. :) And yes, I'll be at
Networkers in Orlando! With the SP, you'll find a lot of the basics
coming back, but a different focus as you are using a lot more BGP
than in the R&S labs. But take each technology, play with it in
depth, then start adding things together! It's a process. Any of
these tests are! There are some decent Cisco Press books on MPLS
fundamentals and design. Check 'em out. Scott
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From: Gobind [mailto:gobind@inbox.com]
Sent: Saturday, February 02, 2008 6:12 AM
To: smorris@ipexpert.com; 'Cisco certification'; 'Narbik Kocharians';
'christian'; 'Darby Weaver'; 'Scott Morris'
Cc: 'Brian McGahan'; bdennis@internetworkexpert.com;
ccielab@groupstudy.com
Subject: RE: *Huge Post*..Passed! 20 yr old CCIE # 19910
Importance: High
Thanks,well Scott,the drinking age in India is 18 yrs,I am really
happy that it isnt 21 like US,hehe.I knew because when i was there
for my bootcamp in US,I went to buy beers but could not buy it as I
was 19 at that time.
I can't even grab a glass of beer with you guys, if I get a chance at
Networkers in Orlando this year :( (Hope you are coming there)
P.S.:- Any tips for going towards CCIE SP?
--Gobind
CCIE # 19910
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From: smorris@ipexpert.com
Sent: Fri, 1 Feb 2008 20:08:18 -0500
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christian@subfighter.ca, darbyweaver@yahoo.com, swm@emanon.com
Subject: RE: *Huge Post*..Passed! 20 yr old CCIE # 19910
Congratulations!!! Too bad you aren't old enough to drink in
celebration!!! (Although, I must admit I have no clue what the
drinking age is on the other side of the Pond!) :) Go back and
spend some time with the girlfriend and family before taking on
another CCIE! Cheers,
Scott Morris, CCIE4 (R&S/ISP-Dial/Security/Service Provider)
#4713, JNCIE-M #153, JNCIS-ER, CISSP, et al.
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From: Gobind [mailto:gobind@inbox.com]
Sent: Friday, February 01, 2008 6:28 PM
To: Cisco certification; Narbik Kocharians; christian; Darby
Weaver; Scott Morris; Scott Morris
Cc: Brian McGahan; bdennis@internetworkexpert.com;
ccielab@groupstudy.com
Subject: *Huge Post*..Passed! 20 yr old CCIE # 19910
Importance: High
Hey Guys!
At last with the blessing of GOD, I manged to pass CCIE exam at
brussels.This was my third attempt.Yea,I am 20 but I am not
boasting but rather feeling proud for this accomplishment in the
conditions I been through while preparing.Its been a long
journey.I want to say Thanks to Brians,Darby for this tips and
Scott,Narbik for their endless help rather it be direct or
indirect as most of the help and information I got to my problems
was by searching the old archives and most of the archives were
from Scott and Narbik :).Also want to say thanks to Alexie for
his posts in Netmasclass,the thing in which I was getting which
was redistribution,he pulled out a topic from Group Study posted
by Bruce from Netmasterclass way back,it was huge post on
Redistribution which really opened my mind in that particular
area.I can post that link later if someone is interested.Also
want to say thanks to Eric and Bruno,the proctors of Brussels
which really helped me(Cheers! if you are reading this post :)
and to Manoj for talking with me on phone for helping me out in
my problems and giving me tips for the Lab.
This is a Huge post.I just want to tell everyone that never ever
give up!!.Always remember:-
"Winners never Quit & Quitters never win!!"
I struggled a lot during my journey to CCIE.It took me 3 years! I
started studying for CCIE back in 2004 after passing my CCNP when
I was just 17.My career started when I was studying in 9th grade
and was working as part time in my areas's local ISP company.I
use to do installations of Modems,cables for New customers.My
interest started to grow after I saw Network Engineer f our
company configuring RIP on Router.My ambition started to grow,I
wanted to be like him,sitting on chair and configuring Network
Equiptments remotely.Then I asked him how to learn those kind of
things and then he recommended me Wendel Odom's CCNA book,that's
when my career in Cisco started.I managed to pass CCNA and
started helping that same Engineer in his work of configuring
routeres and learn new things from him.Later on I managed to pass
CCNP.
My hunger for Networking started to grow,that's when I joined a
big company out of the state where I was living,which really
helped me in studying.I worked there and meanwhile started
studying for CCIE in 2004.But at that time was also most worst
part because when people use to lookup at me in India(thats where
I worked and grew up) they use to mock me "17 year old kid doing
CCIE?!!! HAHAHA",They use to mock me on my back which also worked
as spilling petrol in fire for me in my studies due to which my
determination grew and I wanted to show them that I can do it.But
at that time I was not upto the mark for CCIE.I took traning in
Bangalore,it was 2005 mid by then.Then I got know about IE's
Brian and I saw their sample labs and then I realized that there
was so much out there to learn.But I didnt had that much finance
to pay Brian or for my training.So I made up my mind to work hard
and collect money.After doing 9 to 5 job,I use to Design Websites
and do Web hosting for many customers.
That business really boosted my income and till the ended of 2005
and with some financial help from my parents I planned to buy my
rack and then I posted at GS in Dec 2005 I believe for getting
help for setting up Rack,Then brian McGahan came forward to help
me and I bought full Rack of routers and CCIE End to End from
Brians on which they gave me discount after due to my financial
condition.I am really grateful for them.I started learn
technologies more deeply by studying Brian's COD and their
workbook and meanwhile studying CCIE Practical studies Vol 1 &
2(I already completed TCP/IP Vol I & II by this time).
But finance was always problem for me,so I had to work meanwhile
for collecting money for CCIE Lab exam.But 2006 wasnt really good
year for me.Due to some personal problems at home I had to sell
my rack.My CCIE written exam was going to be expired.So I gave my
written exam again and then I needed to practise on Rack.But the
Rack rentals price for 20-30 days and training of Bangalore for
CCIE turned out to be same,HAHA,So I thought I should rather go
to banglore,this way I got rack access for 1 month physical
access (My employer really helped me and gave me leave).
But then after reading that how people fails in GS,I was really
shocked and I made up my mind to take Bootcamp.My friend Manoj
whom I met in GS recommended me to go Cyscoexpert where Naren
Mehta who is Co-Author of Book "CCIE Routing and Switching
Official Exam Certification Guide" and bahram were giving one to
one training in US.So I decided to go there,so I started
collecting money and did various projects meanwhile and did
programming/designing for website,also hosted Live broadcsting
events.At last I was ready to go.
But before going I did Rack rentals from Chris from CiscoLabs,he
gave me Rack in damn cheap price.I am thankful to him.I took my
training in US from CyscoExpert.That training was just awesome!
It really helped me and I thought I was ready for exam and I
would pass it.I appeared for my lab on 15th may 2007 at RTP,This
was my first attempt and I failed.I was really shocked that what
happened as when i came out of the lab I thought Iwas passed.It
really shook me.I did't knew what to do.I posted my experience in
Lab during then.When i returned back to India,I met those guys
again mocking at me even 2 years after saying that I cant pass
the labs.So I felt so guilty and thought I couldnt pass it and
they were right.But my parents supported and girl friend
supported me and told me to give it another try.After 1 week time
my I decided that I wont give up and booked my lab date on 5th
July,2007 in Dubai and guess what I failed again which almost
made me thing that CCIE is not meant for me and I dint even had
the courage to post in GS or appear in GS again.I was really
broken in pieces and started to think that those guys were 100%
right that CCIE is unattainable for Kid/Teenager like me and I
dont deserve that.
But after 2 months I really thought that what am I doing?! Even
after doing so much I am quiting?! So finally I decided to give
one more attempt again and see my luck.I decided to take Narbik's
bootcamp under his special offer but due to some personal
problems I was not able to attend it.I decided to do
Netmasterclass,Also Chris from CiscoLabs and my old friend Manoj
gave me advise to do it.So I bought Netmaster DoIT and rented
Rack from Chirs and started practicing and whole December I
practised DoIT,especially on Weekends and during Christmas/New
Year Holidays.
By this time my lab was booked on January 29th at Brussels.I went
to IE's COD again.Read the redistribution part which really
sometimes put me in trouble from Forum's of DiscussIT of
Netmasterclass by Bruce posted by Alexie,Thanks again for that!!
And not to forget my favorite post from Darby in GS with Subject
"Lab Approach - Getting Ready for the 3rd Shot at the Title"
which really helped me in my 3rd shot ;).Thanks Darby for that.I
got problem in many things but it was mostly previously discussed
in GS before and was mostly answered by Scott and Narbik,Thanks
Narbik and Scott!!!
I also remember the topic "Attack by proctor" from GS which said
the Proctors esp. in Brussels do attack in rack,many CCIE
candidates came forward and said it.I was also prepared for that
even i thought it was stupid thing,thinking that maybe sometime
in middle of m lab I would get problem,hehe
So the Final day,when i entered the lab I was totally freeked
out.I calmed myself and started my lab and I finished my lab in
5.5 hours which was really good sign for me,then i verified the
solutions from first question from Question one to last and then
came out of the Lab.I left for the airport from hotel at 5pm.
Now the **Golden Moment**.My Girl Friend called me just after 1
hr 45 mins,after my lab,exactly at 6:15 pm(as she was checking my
result) and here what she said "Sweetheart, 19910.." and she
stopped.I understood that were my digits and I was like NO
WAY!,Tears came into my eyes with happiness.I couldnt believe I
passed!! Then i called my parents and gave them the news.That was
the most preciuos moment of my life.I thanked GOD which blessed
me.
As per my expeience in Lab there is nothing known as attack by
proctor in MIDDLE of LAB.And yea Bruno & Eric are not my friends
and they neither gave me Belgian Beer to say this,hehe.
The people which really helped me from Day 1 when I started
preparing for CCIE are Brians which helped me technically and
also financially when I needed help by giving me huge discounts
in my bad times. GOD Bless you. guys!
Maybe I bored you guys with my story.But I just want to tell you
that no matter how hard the time can be if you want to attain
something then go for it,no matter "Whatever it takes".Even in my
case I was being mocked due to my age or even I failed 3 attempts
even my financial condition was not good as I was not earning in
$ but in India Ruppee which really makes difference,believe me.My
pay from past 3 years and money which came from my business of
Web Designing/Programming and Broadcasting over IP,all went into
this studies.Yea I was stupid enough for this because I just had
this one aim in front of me.I took two tranings in
bangalore,Rented more than 600 hours of Racktime from different
vendors,mainly from Chris,Bootcamp in US,three attempts,End to
End from Brians's CCIE and DoIT from Netmasterclass.I know it
looks insane but I was crazy enough to put my 100% efforts as
well as finance in this exam as it was my goal and also shut the
f**k up of those guys who mocked at me due to my age.They use to
say that that they had 12 years of experience(they were CCIE
themself) which was nearly equivant ot my age(I was 17 at that
time).I respect that they had so much experience and had CCIE but
they did not had any right to mock at me.
But I have attained what I dreamt for even it took longer than I
expected but I attained it.
My Next Dream .... "CCIE Service Provider"..hehe.. Now I have to
dig the way of studiying for this cerfication.I am going to start
studying for it in few days time.Any advice or guidance would be
helpful :).
Thanks again to Alexie,Bahram,Brians,Bruce,Chris,Manoj(Thanks for
taking out time for solving my problems),Naren,Narbik & Scott for
their help and support in whichever way I got from them :)
--Gobind Singh Gill
CCIE # 19910
(Proudly Writing :) )
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