From: Darby Weaver (darbyweaver@yahoo.com)
Date: Sat Feb 02 2008 - 19:05:05 ARST
Looks like I'll be at Networkers Orlando too!
See you guys there.
--- Scott Morris <smorris@ipexpert.com> wrote:
> There are ways around that part. :) And yes,
> I'll be at Networkers in
> Orlando!
>
> With the SP, you'll find a lot of the basics coming
> back, but a different
> focus as you are using a lot more BGP than in the
> R&S labs. But take each
> technology, play with it in depth, then start adding
> things together! It's
> a process. Any of these tests are!
>
> There are some decent Cisco Press books on MPLS
> fundamentals and design.
> Check 'em out.
>
> Scott
>
>
> _____
>
> From: Gobind [mailto:gobind@inbox.com]
> Sent: Saturday, February 02, 2008 6:12 AM
> To: smorris@ipexpert.com; 'Cisco certification';
> 'Narbik Kocharians';
> 'christian'; 'Darby Weaver'; 'Scott Morris'
> Cc: 'Brian McGahan'; bdennis@internetworkexpert.com;
> ccielab@groupstudy.com
> Subject: RE: *Huge Post*..Passed! 20 yr old CCIE #
> 19910
> Importance: High
>
>
> Thanks,well Scott,the drinking age in India is 18
> yrs,I am really happy that
> it isnt 21 like US,hehe.I knew because when i was
> there for my bootcamp in
> US,I went to buy beers but could not buy it as I was
> 19 at that time.
>
> I can't even grab a glass of beer with you guys, if
> I get a chance at
> Networkers in Orlando this year :( (Hope you are
> coming there)
>
> P.S.:- Any tips for going towards CCIE SP?
>
> --Gobind
> CCIE # 19910
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: smorris@ipexpert.com
> Sent: Fri, 1 Feb 2008 20:08:18 -0500
> To: gobind@inbox.com, ccielab@groupstudy.com,
> narbikk@gmail.com,
> christian@subfighter.ca, darbyweaver@yahoo.com,
> swm@emanon.com
> Subject: RE: *Huge Post*..Passed! 20 yr old CCIE #
> 19910
>
>
> Congratulations!!! Too bad you aren't old enough
> to drink in
> celebration!!! (Although, I must admit I have no
> clue what the drinking age
> is on the other side of the Pond!) :)
>
> Go back and spend some time with the girlfriend and
> family before taking on
> another CCIE!
>
> Cheers,
>
>
>
>
> Scott Morris, CCIE4 (R&S/ISP-Dial/Security/Service
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> _____
>
> From: Gobind [mailto:gobind@inbox.com]
> Sent: Friday, February 01, 2008 6:28 PM
> To: Cisco certification; Narbik Kocharians;
> christian; Darby Weaver; Scott
> Morris; Scott Morris
> Cc: Brian McGahan; bdennis@internetworkexpert.com;
> ccielab@groupstudy.com
> Subject: *Huge Post*..Passed! 20 yr old CCIE # 19910
> Importance: High
>
>
> Hey Guys!
>
> At last with the blessing of GOD, I manged to pass
> CCIE exam at
> brussels.This was my third attempt.Yea,I am 20 but I
> am not boasting but
> rather feeling proud for this accomplishment in the
> conditions I been
> through while preparing.Its been a long journey.I
> want to say Thanks to
> Brians,Darby for this tips and Scott,Narbik for
> their endless help rather it
> be direct or indirect as most of the help and
> information I got to my
> problems was by searching the old archives and most
> of the archives were
> from Scott and Narbik :).Also want to say thanks to
> Alexie for his posts in
> Netmasclass,the thing in which I was getting which
> was redistribution,he
> pulled out a topic from Group Study posted by Bruce
> from Netmasterclass way
> back,it was huge post on Redistribution which really
> opened my mind in that
> particular area.I can post that link later if
> someone is interested.Also
> want to say thanks to Eric and Bruno,the proctors of
> Brussels which really
> helped me(Cheers! if you are reading this post :)
> and to Manoj for talking
> with me on phone for helping me out in my problems
> and giving me tips for
> the Lab.
>
> This is a Huge post.I just want to tell everyone
> that never ever give
> up!!.Always remember:-
>
> "Winners never Quit & Quitters never win!!"
>
> I struggled a lot during my journey to CCIE.It took
> me 3 years! I started
> studying for CCIE back in 2004 after passing my CCNP
> when I was just 17.My
> career started when I was studying in 9th grade and
> was working as part time
> in my areas's local ISP company.I use to do
> installations of Modems,cables
> for New customers.My interest started to grow after
> I saw Network Engineer f
> our company configuring RIP on Router.My ambition
> started to grow,I wanted
> to be like him,sitting on chair and configuring
> Network Equiptments
> remotely.Then I asked him how to learn those kind of
> things and then he
> recommended me Wendel Odom's CCNA book,that's when
> my career in Cisco
> started.I managed to pass CCNA and started helping
> that same Engineer in his
> work of configuring routeres and learn new things
> from him.Later on I
> managed to pass CCNP.
>
> My hunger for Networking started to grow,that's when
> I joined a big company
> out of the state where I was living,which really
> helped me in studying.I
> worked there and meanwhile started studying for CCIE
> in 2004.But at that
> time was also most worst part because when people
> use to lookup at me in
> India(thats where I worked and grew up) they use to
> mock me "17 year old kid
> doing CCIE?!!! HAHAHA",They use to mock me on my
> back which also worked as
> spilling petrol in fire for me in my studies due to
> which my determination
> grew and I wanted to show them that I can do it.But
> at that time I was not
> upto the mark for CCIE.I took traning in
> Bangalore,it was 2005 mid by
> then.Then I got know about IE's Brian and I saw
> their sample labs and then I
> realized that there was so much out there to
> learn.But I didnt had that much
> finance to pay Brian or for my training.So I made up
> my mind to work hard
> and collect money.After doing 9 to 5 job,I use to
> Design Websites and do Web
> hosting for many customers.
>
> That business really boosted my income and till the
> ended of 2005 and with
> some financial help from my parents I planned to buy
> my rack and then I
> posted at GS in Dec 2005 I believe for getting help
> for setting up Rack,Then
> brian McGahan came forward to help me and I bought
> full Rack of routers and
> CCIE End to End from Brians on which they gave me
> discount after due to my
> financial condition.I am really grateful for them.I
> started learn
> technologies more deeply by studying Brian's COD and
> their workbook and
> meanwhile studying CCIE Practical studies Vol 1 &
> 2(I already completed
> TCP/IP Vol I & II by this time).
>
> But finance was always problem for me,so I had to
> work meanwhile for
> collecting money for CCIE Lab exam.But 2006 wasnt
> really good year for
> me.Due to some personal problems at home I had to
> sell my rack.My CCIE
> written exam was going to be expired.So I gave my
> written exam again and
> then I needed to practise on Rack.But the Rack
> rentals price for 20-30 days
> and training of Bangalore for CCIE turned out to be
> same,HAHA,So I thought I
> should rather go to banglore,this way I got rack
> access for 1 month physical
> access (My employer really helped me and gave me
> leave).
>
> But then after reading that how people fails in GS,I
> was really shocked and
> I made up my mind to take Bootcamp.My friend Manoj
> whom I met in GS
> recommended me to go Cyscoexpert where Naren Mehta
> who is Co-Author of Book
> "CCIE Routing and Switching Official Exam
> Certification Guide" and bahram
> were giving one to one training in US.So I decided
> to go there,so I started
> collecting money and did various projects meanwhile
> and did
> programming/designing for website,also hosted Live
> broadcsting events.At
> last I was ready to go.
>
> But before going I did Rack rentals from Chris from
> CiscoLabs,he gave me
> Rack in damn cheap price.I am thankful to him.I took
> my training in US from
> CyscoExpert.That training was just awesome! It
> really helped me and I
> thought I was ready for exam and I would pass it.I
> appeared for my lab on
> 15th may 2007 at RTP,This was my first attempt and I
> failed.I was really
> shocked that what happened as when i came out of the
> lab I thought Iwas
> passed.It really shook me.I did't knew what to do.I
> posted my experience in
> Lab during then.When i returned back to India,I met
> those guys again mocking
> at me even 2 years after saying that I cant pass the
> labs.So I felt so
> guilty and thought I couldnt pass it and they were
> right.But my parents
> supported and girl friend supported me and told me
> to give it another
> try.After 1 week time my I decided that I wont give
> up and booked my lab
> date on 5th July,2007 in Dubai and guess what I
> failed again which almost
> made me thing that CCIE is not meant for me and I
> dint even had the courage
> to post in GS or appear in GS again.I was really
> broken in pieces and
> started to think that those guys were 100% right
> that CCIE is unattainable
> for Kid/Teenager like me and I dont deserve that.
>
> But after 2 months I really thought that what am I
> doing?! Even after doing
> so much I am quiting?! So finally I decided to give
> one more attempt again
> and see my luck.I decided to take Narbik's bootcamp
> under his special offer
> but due to some personal problems I was not able to
> attend it.I decided to
> do Netmasterclass,Also Chris from CiscoLabs and my
> old friend Manoj gave me
> advise to do it.So I bought Netmaster DoIT and
> rented Rack from Chirs and
> started practicing and whole December I practised
> DoIT,especially on
> Weekends and during Christmas/New Year Holidays.
>
> By this time my lab was booked on January 29th at
> Brussels.I went to IE's
> COD again.Read the redistribution part which really
> sometimes put me in
> trouble from Forum's of DiscussIT of Netmasterclass
> by Bruce posted by
> Alexie,Thanks again for that!! And not to forget my
> favorite post from Darby
> in GS with Subject "Lab Approach - Getting Ready for
> the 3rd Shot at the
> Title" which really helped me in my 3rd shot
> ;).Thanks Darby for that.I got
> problem in many things but it was mostly previously
> discussed in GS before
> and was mostly answered by Scott and Narbik,Thanks
> Narbik and Scott!!!
>
> I also remember the topic "Attack by proctor" from
> GS which said the
> Proctors esp. in Brussels do attack in rack,many
> CCIE candidates came
> forward and said it.I was also prepared for that
> even i thought it was
> stupid thing,thinking that maybe sometime in middle
> of m lab I would get
> problem,hehe
>
> So the Final day,when i entered the lab I was
> totally freeked out.I calmed
> myself and started my lab and I finished my lab in
> 5.5 hours which was
> really good sign for me,then i verified the
> solutions from first question
> from Question one to last and then came out of the
> Lab.I left for the
> airport from hotel at 5pm.
>
> Now the **Golden Moment**.My Girl Friend called me
> just after 1 hr 45
> mins,after my lab,exactly at 6:15 pm(as she was
> checking my result) and here
> what she said "Sweetheart, 19910.." and she
> stopped.I understood that were
> my digits and I was like NO WAY!,Tears came into my
> eyes with happiness.I
> couldnt believe I passed!! Then i called my parents
> and gave them the
> news.That was the most preciuos moment of my life.I
> thanked GOD which
> blessed me.
>
> As per my expeience in Lab there is nothing known as
> attack by proctor in
> MIDDLE of LAB.And yea Bruno & Eric are not my
> friends and they neither gave
> me Belgian Beer to say this,hehe.
>
> The people which really helped me from Day 1 when I
> started preparing for
> CCIE are Brians which helped me technically and also
> financially when I
> needed help by giving me huge discounts in my bad
> times. GOD Bless you.
> guys!
>
> Maybe I bored you guys with my story.But I just want
> to tell you that no
> matter how hard the time can be if you want to
> attain something then go for
> it,no matter "Whatever it takes".Even in my case I
> was being mocked due to
> my age or even I failed 3 attempts even my financial
> condition was not good
> as I was not earning in $ but in India Ruppee which
> really makes
> difference,believe me.My pay from past 3 years and
> money which came from my
> business of Web Designing/Programming and
> Broadcasting over IP,all went into
> this studies.Yea I was stupid enough for this
> because I just had this one
> aim in front of me.I took two tranings in
> bangalore,Rented more than 600
> hours of Racktime from different vendors,mainly from
> Chris,Bootcamp in
> US,three attempts,End to End from Brians's CCIE and
> DoIT from
> Netmasterclass.I know it looks insane but I was
> crazy enough to put my 100%
> efforts as well as finance in this exam as it was my
> goal and also shut the
> f**k up of those guys who mocked at me due to my
> age.They use to say that
> that they had 12 years of experience(they were CCIE
> themself) which was
> nearly equivant ot my age(I was 17 at that time).I
> respect that they had so
> much experience and had CCIE but they did not had
> any right to mock at me.
>
> But I have attained what I dreamt for even it took
> longer than I expected
> but I attained it.
>
> My Next Dream .... "CCIE Service Provider"..hehe..
> Now I have to dig the way
> of studiying for this cerfication.I am going to
> start studying for it in few
> days time.Any advice or guidance would be helpful
> :).
>
> Thanks again to
> Alexie,Bahram,Brians,Bruce,Chris,Manoj(Thanks for
> taking out
> time for solving my problems),Naren,Narbik & Scott
> for their help and
> support in whichever way I got from them :)
>
> --Gobind Singh Gill
> CCIE # 19910
> (Proudly Writing :) )
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