RE: WAY OT: What would you do?

From: Stuart.Juggins@computacenter.com
Date: Fri Dec 16 2005 - 11:13:04 GMT-3


Sean,

You are very much on the same wave length as me. Although for you it
would be far more difficult to cross over to the Security lab due the
amount of time you've already invested. Hence the reasoning behind my
original question.

I believe the security cert is possibly a harder track to attain due to
its complexity, I agree it's more difficult to find decent study material
and then there's the additional expense of kit needed for security. I
have been pursuing the R&S lab since 2000 (on and off) so it's not an easy
decision to make.

I know that as soon as my baby is born I will not want to study much (I'm
sure you feel the same), so I have realized I would never pursue 2 CCIE's,
therefore I want to make the right decision and do the best I can now.

All the best Sean, I'm sure you'll get your number very soon!!

-----Original Message-----
From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
Sean C
Sent: 16 December 2005 13:53
To: ccielab@groupstudy.com
Subject: Re: WAY OT: What would you do?

Hi Stuart,

Interesting question - and I've flirted with the same idea myself
recently.

2 coworkers of mine decided they wanted a CCIE in something (they both
have
the CCNP and CCSP - as do I). They both decided to go for the CCIE
Security
track. Their reasoning was they felt that the Security track was going to

be an easier cert than the R& S cert. They felt that the Security track
was
more focused on 1 area rather than the R&S track that seems to take a
little
from a bunch of different areas. At first, I was puzzled by their
statement
as I had never considered their view (I have been a victim of the R&S lab
too many times to count). Perhaps they are on to something, but I've
invested so much time in the R&S, I'm sticking with the R&S.

They did acknowledge 2 challenges, though, with their decision to focus on

the Security track:
1-not as many 3rd-party vendors offer quality study material for Security
vs
R&S
AND
2-it may be more difficult (ie -expensive) to acquire a lab for Security.

As for me? I still look to the day when I can have both an R&S and
Security
CCIE under my signature. But, with my first little one on the way, who
knows....

HTH,
Sean

----- Original Message -----
From: <Stuart.Juggins@computacenter.com>
To: <ccielab@groupstudy.com>
Sent: Friday, December 16, 2005 4:49 AM
Subject: WAY OT: What would you do?

> Guys and Gals,
>
>
>
> Little bit of advice needed, my dilemma is as follows.
>
>
>
> I'm currently studying for my R&S Lab and have quite a lot to do before
> I'll be ready. Also a colleague of mine is currently studying for his
> CCSP and will then be going on to his Security Lab as this is what he
> prefers (finds it more interesting), I had also thought of doing this as
> Security is interesting and is a growth area.
>
>
>
> I was chatting to a couple of new hire CCIE's to my company and they
have
> said to me not to bother doing the R&S but to go down the CCSP (or Voice
> if I wanted) route and then do the Security lab in a year or so. At
first
> I thought no, but they were talking to me about the job market (in the
UK)
> and were saying that whenever they had interviews they would be asked
what
> there CCIE was in (i.e R&S) and then what they specialized in (e.g
> Security, Voice etc). Basically what they found was there's an abundant
> supply of R&S CCIE's hence the requirements to specialize in something.
> They were saying to me CCSP's are earning nearly as much as R&S CCIE's,
> and if I did the Security lab I would be far more employable.
>
>
>
> What do you think? If you were 6 months away from "attempting"
(possibly
> not passing) the R&S lab would you continue down that route or extend
your
> studying by 6-12 months and go down the more employable route?
>
>
>
> I know it's a personal decision, but would appreciate the opinion of you
> guys. This does really only relate to the UK job market. Also I
> appreciate that for some the main reason to do the CCIE is not financial
> incentive, but that is a major factor for most.
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Stuart.
>
>
>
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