From: Leigh Harrison (ccileigh@gmail.com)
Date: Fri Dec 16 2005 - 12:49:33 GMT-3
Hey there Stuart,
I'm over in the UK too.
The market is pretty good for all kinds of CCIE's - but, as I'm sure you
know, it depends where you go. There is a good market for non R&S
CCIE's. I took my R&S and whilst I was doing it, I was already planning
the next exam to take after it. When you pass, you are at a very high
standerd of learning. I'm now going for my ccvp and then I want to
recert my ccie in voice. I'm finding it pretty easy to take in the
concepts that I'm going through at the moment.
I suppose my advice would be to take whichever you enjoy doing the
most. Whichever path you take, it is a difficult exam, if you enjoy
doing it, then that's half the mental battle won.
Good luck, whichever way you go.
LH
Stuart.Juggins@computacenter.com wrote:
>Sean,
>
>You are very much on the same wave length as me. Although for you it
>would be far more difficult to cross over to the Security lab due the
>amount of time you've already invested. Hence the reasoning behind my
>original question.
>
>I believe the security cert is possibly a harder track to attain due to
>its complexity, I agree it's more difficult to find decent study material
>and then there's the additional expense of kit needed for security. I
>have been pursuing the R&S lab since 2000 (on and off) so it's not an easy
>decision to make.
>
>I know that as soon as my baby is born I will not want to study much (I'm
>sure you feel the same), so I have realized I would never pursue 2 CCIE's,
>therefore I want to make the right decision and do the best I can now.
>
>All the best Sean, I'm sure you'll get your number very soon!!
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
>Sean C
>Sent: 16 December 2005 13:53
>To: ccielab@groupstudy.com
>Subject: Re: WAY OT: What would you do?
>
>Hi Stuart,
>
>Interesting question - and I've flirted with the same idea myself
>recently.
>
>2 coworkers of mine decided they wanted a CCIE in something (they both
>have
>the CCNP and CCSP - as do I). They both decided to go for the CCIE
>Security
>track. Their reasoning was they felt that the Security track was going to
>
>be an easier cert than the R& S cert. They felt that the Security track
>was
>more focused on 1 area rather than the R&S track that seems to take a
>little
>from a bunch of different areas. At first, I was puzzled by their
>statement
>as I had never considered their view (I have been a victim of the R&S lab
>too many times to count). Perhaps they are on to something, but I've
>invested so much time in the R&S, I'm sticking with the R&S.
>
>They did acknowledge 2 challenges, though, with their decision to focus on
>
>the Security track:
>1-not as many 3rd-party vendors offer quality study material for Security
>vs
>R&S
>AND
>2-it may be more difficult (ie -expensive) to acquire a lab for Security.
>
>As for me? I still look to the day when I can have both an R&S and
>Security
>CCIE under my signature. But, with my first little one on the way, who
>knows....
>
>HTH,
>Sean
>
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: <Stuart.Juggins@computacenter.com>
>To: <ccielab@groupstudy.com>
>Sent: Friday, December 16, 2005 4:49 AM
>Subject: WAY OT: What would you do?
>
>
>
>
>>Guys and Gals,
>>
>>
>>
>>Little bit of advice needed, my dilemma is as follows.
>>
>>
>>
>>I'm currently studying for my R&S Lab and have quite a lot to do before
>>I'll be ready. Also a colleague of mine is currently studying for his
>>CCSP and will then be going on to his Security Lab as this is what he
>>prefers (finds it more interesting), I had also thought of doing this as
>>Security is interesting and is a growth area.
>>
>>
>>
>>I was chatting to a couple of new hire CCIE's to my company and they
>>
>>
>have
>
>
>>said to me not to bother doing the R&S but to go down the CCSP (or Voice
>>if I wanted) route and then do the Security lab in a year or so. At
>>
>>
>first
>
>
>>I thought no, but they were talking to me about the job market (in the
>>
>>
>UK)
>
>
>>and were saying that whenever they had interviews they would be asked
>>
>>
>what
>
>
>>there CCIE was in (i.e R&S) and then what they specialized in (e.g
>>Security, Voice etc). Basically what they found was there's an abundant
>>supply of R&S CCIE's hence the requirements to specialize in something.
>>They were saying to me CCSP's are earning nearly as much as R&S CCIE's,
>>and if I did the Security lab I would be far more employable.
>>
>>
>>
>>What do you think? If you were 6 months away from "attempting"
>>
>>
>(possibly
>
>
>>not passing) the R&S lab would you continue down that route or extend
>>
>>
>your
>
>
>>studying by 6-12 months and go down the more employable route?
>>
>>
>>
>>I know it's a personal decision, but would appreciate the opinion of you
>>guys. This does really only relate to the UK job market. Also I
>>appreciate that for some the main reason to do the CCIE is not financial
>>incentive, but that is a major factor for most.
>>
>>
>>
>>Thanks,
>>
>>Stuart.
>>
>>
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