RE: WAY OT: What would you do?

From: milo_az@yahoo.com
Date: Fri Dec 16 2005 - 10:56:08 GMT-3


It appears that you have already made your decision. Now back to the OT (On Topic).
   
  Mike

Stuart.Juggins@computacenter.com wrote:
  Duane,

Thanks for the reply. I know the CCIE is far harder than the CCSP, all
professional level certs are far below the level needed to pass the lab.
What I' saying is that at the moment (in the UK at least) there is such a
high number of R&S CCIE's compared to Security CCIE's, and for most (8 out
of 10 jobs) they ask for specialized skills such as security, voice etc.

Thanks.

-----Original Message-----
From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of de
Witt, Duane
Sent: 16 December 2005 11:36
To: Stuart Juggins; ccielab@groupstudy.com
Subject: RE: WAY OT: What would you do?

I did CCSP in one month. I can tell you without any doubt that CCIE R&S
is 100 times more difficult and as far as I am concerned, it is that
coveted number that I am after and not the track. For me a CCIE is all
about a different approach to problems, I don't think the technical
content is as important as the perspective you gain from any CCIE track.

Also, I believe, that once the R&S is behind you it will be much easier
to pass other tracks than going straight into them.

-----Original Message-----
From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
Stuart.Juggins@computacenter.com
Sent: 16 December 2005 11:49 AM
To: ccielab@groupstudy.com
Subject: WAY OT: What would you do?

Guys and Gals,

Little bit of advice needed, my dilemma is as follows.

I'm currently studying for my R&S Lab and have quite a lot to do before
I'll be ready. Also a colleague of mine is currently studying for his
CCSP and will then be going on to his Security Lab as this is what he
prefers (finds it more interesting), I had also thought of doing this as
Security is interesting and is a growth area.

I was chatting to a couple of new hire CCIE's to my company and they
have
said to me not to bother doing the R&S but to go down the CCSP (or Voice
if I wanted) route and then do the Security lab in a year or so. At
first
I thought no, but they were talking to me about the job market (in the
UK)
and were saying that whenever they had interviews they would be asked
what
there CCIE was in (i.e R&S) and then what they specialized in (e.g
Security, Voice etc). Basically what they found was there's an abundant
supply of R&S CCIE's hence the requirements to specialize in something.
They were saying to me CCSP's are earning nearly as much as R&S CCIE's,
and if I did the Security lab I would be far more employable.

What do you think? If you were 6 months away from "attempting"
(possibly
not passing) the R&S lab would you continue down that route or extend
your
studying by 6-12 months and go down the more employable route?

I know it's a personal decision, but would appreciate the opinion of you
guys. This does really only relate to the UK job market. Also I
appreciate that for some the main reason to do the CCIE is not financial
incentive, but that is a major factor for most.

Thanks,

Stuart.

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