From: akbar khan (ciscokhan@hotmail.com)
Date: Tue Aug 05 2003 - 03:19:56 GMT-3
Folks,
Be aware of N.D.A , although Iam not a moderator of this group but I
still feel that I should vow to all to remain courteous and committed to
keep this group as a legitimate source of learnings and knowledge base
discussion and nothing beyond this...!
Akbar khan
>From: "sameer inam" >Reply-To: "sameer inam" >To: sanjay_wc@hotmail.com,
deepesh@cisco.com, ccielab@groupstudy.com >Subject: Re: CCIE # 12046
>Date: Tue, 05 Aug 2003 04:32:56 +0000 > >congrate for the clear the CCIE
LAB ...i am also started the preparation >of CCIE lab can u tell me wat
type question there ...and wat type senorio >ok > >i really thank full to
you > >take care > >sameer > > >From: "Sanjay W" >Reply-To: "Sanjay W"
>To: "Deepesh Chouhan" , "group >study" >Subject: Re: CCIE # 12046 >Date:
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>ccielab-owner@groupstudy.com > >Deepesh......congratulations on your
>achievement and thank you very much for >your words of encouragement and
>advice....all of which I believe are a >result of enjoying the journey.
> > >Thx, >Sanjay. >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Deepesh Chouhan"
> >To: "group study" >Sent: Friday, August 01, 2003 6:17 PM >Subject:
CCIE ># 12046 > > > > Hey folks > > > > Finally - CCIE # 12046 (On July
31st in >San Jose) > > > > Few common/not-so-common tips and thoughts > >
> > Top >5 requirements for clearing this exam > >
>========================================= > > - Practice > > 4-5/4-5
rule >- last 4-5 weeks before exam - > > 4-5 hours a day. each day > >
Varies >from person to person > > - Time management and discipline > >
Your job, >your weekends, your social needs > > Your playstation, skiing,
football >:) > > Keep your priorities straight > > - Sound theoretical
knowledge > > > No ... you can't clear this exam just by practicing > >
OSPF commands >for 1000 hours. You should know > > theory behind the
protocols. That >will help you > > in filtering out possible solutions
for a lab question > > > - Browsing/Searching skills on univerCD > >
Always refer to CD first. > > > - How to read English - CCIE has its own
english. > > Questions are >never like "config this". Read between the >
> lines, but don't try to >dig too deep and try to read > > other side of
the page > > > > What i >used > > =========== > > Books - Jeff Doyle I
and II, Solie, Halabi, >UniverCD, Cisco docs > > Practice workbook - IP
expert WB 4.0 > > (pros) >1. lab 36 > > 2. good website and forum > > 3.
labs 19-35 difficulty >level is good, but does not cover all topics > >
(cons) 1. Solution >errors > > 2. Repitive stuff in some labs > > 3. labs
19-35 difficulty >level is good, but does not cover all topics > > > > >
> Disclaimer : >Personal opinion follows :) > > > > 1. Does it matter -
number of >attempts > > ====================================== > > > >
Her husband >and their 8-year-old son would sprint past her in a race to
>the > > >mountaintop, and Laurel Blair Clark would amble behind,
absorbing each > >smell > > and sight nature could offer in the hikes she
loved to take. >She knew the > > journey was more important than the
destination, - Jon >Clark, husband of > > Columbia shuttle astronaut
Laurel Clark. > > > > > > > My journey took me whole 3 years and 4
attempts. Earlier, like everyone > >else > > i wanted to race to the
mountain top. > > But with time i >started enjoying the journey.
Countless hours of >practice, > > >technology, geek talk, ospf-dreams :)
> > that was so much fun ... no >wonder i feel clueless today :) > > > >
You are a CCIE ... no matter how >many attempts you had ... my number is
> > 12046 and not 12046-4. > > And >there is a reason for it. > > - you
can't clear this exam, just by taking >it again and again. 1st >attempt >
> or 5th attempt - you can clear it >only if are technically sound, have
tons > > of practice, expert search >skills and good speed > > - For most
of us preparing for the lab exam is >not our full time job. We > > have
our primary jobs with its own needs, >emergencies and diving catches. > >
Time management and prioritizing is a >key. > > > > In my case i used the
first 2 attempts to test the waters. >(for a 2-day >lab > > format and
1-day lab format) > > If you are just >too worried about CCIE lab ghost
stories, AND if you can > > afford it, >remove the stress and anxiety by
trying it out. My 3rd was >close > > ... >CCIE English killed it. > > > >
2. Why should I do CCIE > > >======================= > > If you are not a
CCIE does not mean that you >don't know anything. On the > > other hand,
if you are CCIE, that does >not mean that you know everything. > > For
CCIE lab, you are not supposed >to know everything. You should be able
>to > > find solutions within the >time constraints. Then why do it ? > >
> > CCIE is quantifiable >achievement - something which you can express
in > > words - where ever >you go. It is something which everyone knows
about. It > > will "Atleast" >help you in getting your foot in the door.
> > > > 3. Are there too many >CCIEs > > =========================== > >
We get lots of "too many ccies" >"market is getting saturated" emails. >
> But i think people who are >worried about it, are those, who want to be
>CCIE > > "only" for money. > > > Money part is controlled by market
economics of demand and supply. > > >CCIE is about knowledge and
empowerment it brings. Money is one of them > > > > > For the records -
the topic i hated most on this mailing list - >People > > cribbing about
not getting their CCIE plaque. > > Dude - >people are trying to study
here. I promise I won't do that :) > > > > >Thanks > > Deepesh > > > > >
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