From: Mark Newcomb (MNewcomb@xxxxxxxxxxxx)
Date: Fri Dec 21 2001 - 12:53:58 GMT-3
Bravo!
I know CCIEs that do not work for companies with any other CCIEs, nor
did they need to take the lab more than once.
I will give you two names that I know off the top of my head - Andrew
Mason & Bryan Cox
Their prescription for passing the test was:
1) Read
2) Practice
3) Ask questions
4) repeat numbers 1, 2, and 3 between 10,000 and 100,000 times
-----Original Message-----
From: EA Louie [mailto:elouie@yahoo.com]
Sent: Friday, December 21, 2001 12:29 AM
To: Giveortake@aol.com
Cc: ccielab@groupstudy.com
Subject: Re: 1-day lab format
> try. Unless of course you monitor this thread for at least 6 months.
The
> reason is this exam really isnt passable without being extremely
knowledgable
> AND cheating........ Let me say of course that I would never cheat
and
> break the NDA............
>
[snip]
> As always I will master the game..... See you with my CCIE # in April
2002
> on my second attempt.......
>
That makes no sense at all. You've essentially called everyone who
passes a
cheater, claim that you won't cheat, but that you'll pass on your 2nd
attempt. Blanket statements like that demonstrate your incredible
immaturity and I disagree with your reasoning 100%. So out of 7000+
CCIE's
you'll be the only one who didn't cheat. Doubtful, my friend. Most of
the
CCIEs that I know have pretty high integrity, worked hard to achieve
their
certification, and would bristle at your accusation.
People pass this exam because they prepare thoroughly. They don't cut
corners. They practice repetitively over and over again. They never
look
at anything as being too elementary. A little bit of experience in the
field surely helps. Over and over again, people take the lab exam, and
although they study seriously, the background required to take an exam
of
this magnitude isn't in their experience. I postulate that folks have
to
retake the exam multiple times because they don't prepare properly,
don't
have enough experience to get themselves out of a problem, and don't
even
know what they don't know until they take the exam. All three of those
postulates are true for me. Experience...knowledge...practice. Simple
formula that Cisco recommends, and people challenge all the time.
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