From: Jim Brown (Jim.Brown@xxxxxxxxxxxxx)
Date: Mon Oct 01 2001 - 20:35:44 GMT-3
I cannot see how the exam could ever be auto-graded.
How could they know what you would name your route-maps or whether you would
use prefix/extended access-lists?
The permutations are limitless and your work could only be verified via
trained eyes.
For auto-grading to even be considered, test requirements would need to
specify names for route-maps, prefix-lists, access-lists, and the like. At
that point a monkey could configure the scenarios if told which commands and
technologies to use.
Someone made a funny comment regarding the extremely specific design
requirements necessary for auto-grading...... We could all become CCCAPE
(Cisco Certified Cut And Paste Experts).
I would like to purchase one of those San Jose lobby chairs after I
successfully complete the lab, just to burn it (you might be able to relate
if you have taken the lab in San Jose). I'm starting to hate those damn
chairs.
Have some sympathy for the proctors. They will now have to deal with twice
as many exams to grade, although no arguing, hostility, or removal of upset
candidates during the debriefing.
-----Original Message-----
From: Libone Mhalanga [mailto:libone@digisle.net]
Sent: Monday, October 01, 2001 3:16 PM
To: ccielab@groupstudy.com
Subject: RE: New lab format starting tomorrow!
Well in my opinion anything that removes human intervention in deciding
the outcome of this exam is most welcome !!
Proctors are NOT above human failings and prejudices. I certainly found
that in Brussels two weeks ago !!
-----Original Message-----
From: Bruce Williams
Sent: Mon 10/1/2001 1:17 PM
To: John Kaberna; ccielab@groupstudy.com
Cc:
Subject: Re: New lab format starting tomorrow!
I hope that it does not come to that. I have heard people
express their
concerns about the CCIE losing it's value and I always thought
these
concerns were invalid, but I believe that this is something that
will
devalue the CCIE. If the CCIE goes to Sylvan testing, it will be
easier for
people to cheat and you will see a dramatic increase in the pass
rate.
Bruce
----- Original Message -----
From: "John Kaberna" <jkaberna@netcginc.com>
To: <ccielab@groupstudy.com>
Sent: Monday, October 01, 2001 3:56 PM
Subject: Re: New lab format starting tomorrow!
> Computer based marking is not next. However, Cisco already
has plans in
the
> work to extend testing to other remote Cisco sites and have
the proctor be
> available over a webcam. The next step is Sylvan testing. I
got this
info
> first hand from a proctor. It's not a rumor. Whether it
happens or not I
> think is still in discussion.
>
> John Kaberna
> CCIE #7146
> NETCG Inc.
> Cisco Premier Partner
> www.netcginc.com
> (415) 750-3800
>
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