Re: frog is quad ccie now - wtf?

So your knowledge of CCIE in any track is useless? Try to teach a
programmer networking.

On Sun, Apr 19, 2015 at 11:52 AM, Naveen <navin.ms_at_gmail.com> wrote:

> Please allow me to say something here. Don't bet on CCIE alone. Networking
> Landscape has changed. The market is asking for more DevOps style work than
> traditional LAN/WAN admin style jobs.
>
> Skills such as Python and REST APIs to control routers/switched,
> Application based Networking using Open Stack, Open Daylight , OpenFlow are
> starting to gain importance. These new technologies are designed for
> networks to be automatable and reconfigurable in real time, which should
> eventually render traditional CCIEs less useful. Depending on how much of
> one's active career left, it's time to consider this change.
>
> You might argue our protocols might not change, but that might be true in
> the near term (2-3 years). Just look around and see what Open Networking
> standards and protocols have done in the last 2-3 years for Data centers,
> Enterprises, and Service Providers. Its time our CCIE training partners
> re-brand themselves to this new wave.
>
> Naveen.
> CCIE25432.
>
> On Sunday, April 19, 2015, Narbik Kocharians <narbik_at_micronicstraining.com
> >
> wrote:
>
> > Congratulations mate. Well done.
> >
> > On Sun, Apr 19, 2015 at 4:41 AM, Radioactive Frog <pbhatkoti_at_gmail.com
> > <javascript:;>>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Hi Chris,
> > > I know where you are coming from. Most CCIE (not everyone) would
> design,
> > > production environment in the lab way!
> > >
> > > I have seen them in real action where those lab engineer never seen a
> > real
> > > gear and don't know what really the RJ45 console vs DB9 pin looks like.
> > >
> > > In my last role a newly minted out uni double CCIE asked me what is
> ATM.
> > He
> > > said "i know" but i wanted to confirm. I said what do u know then he
> > said -
> > > Is it ATM machine where we withdraw money and that ATM connected to
> > > ethernet interface. He was fresh from university with 2XCCIE (RS/SEC).
> I
> > > was like.... wtf. I jokingly said "yes' ATM is the WALL where you go
> pull
> > > money (but only $100 dollars notes).
> > >
> > > Shocking!
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Sat, Apr 18, 2015 at 7:53 PM, Chris Rae <chris.rae07_at_me.com
> > <javascript:;>> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Quad CCIE is an awesome effort.....as long as you dont design
> > production
> > > > environments like the Lab then we are all fine! b :o8
> > > >
> > > > Chris
> > > >
> > > > > On 18 Apr 2015, at 4:32 pm, Radioactive Frog <pbhatkoti_at_gmail.com
> > <javascript:;>>
> > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Gents,
> > > > >
> > > > > Finally, some good news...
> > > > >
> > > > > My target is to stop studying by 2017. No more study afterward.
> > > > >
> > > > > http://bhatkoti.com/2015/04/16/another-quad-ccie-in-downunder/
> > > > >
> > > > > Are 4xCCIE good enough? What are your thoughts?
> > > > >
> > > > > -frog
> > > > >
> > > > >
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