Re: frog is quad ccie now - wtf?

Please allow me to say something here. Don't bet on CCIE alone. Networking
Landscape has changed. The market is asking for more DevOps style work than
traditional LAN/WAN admin style jobs.

Skills such as Python and REST APIs to control routers/switched,
Application based Networking using Open Stack, Open Daylight , OpenFlow are
starting to gain importance. These new technologies are designed for
networks to be automatable and reconfigurable in real time, which should
eventually render traditional CCIEs less useful. Depending on how much of
one's active career left, it's time to consider this change.

You might argue our protocols might not change, but that might be true in
the near term (2-3 years). Just look around and see what Open Networking
standards and protocols have done in the last 2-3 years for Data centers,
Enterprises, and Service Providers. Its time our CCIE training partners
re-brand themselves to this new wave.

Naveen.
CCIE25432.

On Sunday, April 19, 2015, Narbik Kocharians <narbik_at_micronicstraining.com>
wrote:

> Congratulations mate. Well done.
>
> On Sun, Apr 19, 2015 at 4:41 AM, Radioactive Frog <pbhatkoti_at_gmail.com
> <javascript:;>>
> wrote:
>
> > Hi Chris,
> > I know where you are coming from. Most CCIE (not everyone) would design,
> > production environment in the lab way!
> >
> > I have seen them in real action where those lab engineer never seen a
> real
> > gear and don't know what really the RJ45 console vs DB9 pin looks like.
> >
> > In my last role a newly minted out uni double CCIE asked me what is ATM.
> He
> > said "i know" but i wanted to confirm. I said what do u know then he
> said -
> > Is it ATM machine where we withdraw money and that ATM connected to
> > ethernet interface. He was fresh from university with 2XCCIE (RS/SEC). I
> > was like.... wtf. I jokingly said "yes' ATM is the WALL where you go pull
> > money (but only $100 dollars notes).
> >
> > Shocking!
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Sat, Apr 18, 2015 at 7:53 PM, Chris Rae <chris.rae07_at_me.com
> <javascript:;>> wrote:
> >
> > > Quad CCIE is an awesome effort.....as long as you dont design
> production
> > > environments like the Lab then we are all fine! b :o8
> > >
> > > Chris
> > >
> > > > On 18 Apr 2015, at 4:32 pm, Radioactive Frog <pbhatkoti_at_gmail.com
> <javascript:;>>
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Gents,
> > > >
> > > > Finally, some good news...
> > > >
> > > > My target is to stop studying by 2017. No more study afterward.
> > > >
> > > > http://bhatkoti.com/2015/04/16/another-quad-ccie-in-downunder/
> > > >
> > > > Are 4xCCIE good enough? What are your thoughts?
> > > >
> > > > -frog
> > > >
> > > >
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