Re: CCIE with Pass Guarantee

Very true

I feel so bad when I see contribution like Narbic and true champion from whine
I learn basics and these cheater who selling that stuff to candidates

I wish some one can really stop them ASAP

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On 12/12/2012, at 10:56 PM, Muhammad Nasim <muhammad.nasim_at_gmail.com> wrote:

> Their are tripple CCIE, I know personally people they just studied CCIE CERT
> and attmplet lab 6 times and finally got it.
>
> I told them brother it is better u study some labs from vendors some
practicse some WB but NO. they are fully dependent on labs
>
> Another one, I know one guy good guy, he studeid vendors first and then move
to the REAL LAB. He got a question and he was sure that REAL Lab answer is
WROING but he still write the WRONG ANSWER in the exam : 0
>
> This thing already made the market BAD , now it will only get WORSE.
>
> Sorry but it is TRUE
>
>
> On Wed, Dec 12, 2012 at 2:50 PM, Jumma <jummavision_at_gmail.com> wrote:
>> Every Tom Dic and hurry claiming CCIE
>> I feel like to start studying other venders
>>
>> Buy the way
>>
>> What about pass4sure
>>
>> Did any one got them
>>
>> It's all money making bull shit man
>>
>> Excuse my language. I spend 10 years in this industry feel so bad have that
kind if people in networking
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On 12/12/2012, at 10:41 PM, Muhammad Nasim <muhammad.nasim_at_gmail.com>
wrote:
>>
>>> We did like 4 years back to cisco, with more details like proctor involved
and also the other details but nothing happen : )
>>>
>>> I wish best of luck to Narbik to raise the voice to cisco.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Dec 12, 2012 at 2:37 PM, Jumma <jummavision_at_gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> Hi Narbic,
>>>>
>>>> I really appreciate your contribution in networking
>>>>
>>>> If u really wana bust just bust
>>>>
>>>> Www.cciecert.net
>>>>
>>>> They are in Korea
>>>>
>>>> More detail can be provides
>>>>
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>
>>>> On 11/12/2012, at 1:37 PM, Narbik Kocharians <narbikk_at_gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> > I would LOVE to know the list, because I can stop them.
>>>> >
>>>> > On Mon, Dec 10, 2012 at 5:43 PM, Adesh Chaudhary <
>>>> > er.adeshchaudhary_at_gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> >> Dear Tim,
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Neither I mean to offend, Nor I am judging anyone.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> There are X number of vendors out there that are supplying these labs
for
>>>> >> many years, that too along with Guarantees. let me know if you want a
list?
>>>> >>
>>>> >> You think Cisco is unaware of them? If Yes, I'd say WoWwwwww... If I
am
>>>> >> being apathaetic, What is Cisco doing? Don't they know how to google
or
>>>> >> what? Why don't they change the labs that frequently? If No, What did
they
>>>> >> do about it? Maybe something without results, I don't know.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Come on... they took jeremy cioara's blog down few years back, you
think
>>>> >> they can't take on these sites?
>>>> >>
>>>> >> I make my choices, you make yours, others will choose for themselves.
End
>>>> >> of the story.
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
>>>> >> On Tue, Dec 11, 2012 at 6:35 AM, Tim Cribbs Jr. <tmcribbs_at_gmail.com>
>>>> >> wrote:
>>>> >>
>>>> >>> I think we all have a solid understanding of what happens in
>>>> >>> interviews to those who dump, no hidden fact. But lots of us DO care
>>>> >>> about this topic, so to be so apathetic about it says a lot about
you.
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> ...LOL
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> On Mon, Dec 10, 2012 at 5:44 PM, Adesh Chaudhary
>>>> >>> <er.adeshchaudhary_at_gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> >>>> ccie exam has limited sets, No hidden fact. What if I give you mock
>>>> >>>> questions with same topology (replace Ethernet with serial or
whatever)
>>>> >>> and
>>>> >>>> similar IP's (replace subnet X with Y) & I think that should be
enough.
>>>> >>> They
>>>> >>>> are Cisco Partners... If using dumps, I believe they'd have found a
>>>> >>>> workaround OR dont know OR dont care OR whatever. For those who
will
>>>> >>> pass,
>>>> >>>> will struggle in interviews OR even get a job but what next ???
>>>> >> Struggle
>>>> >>> to
>>>> >>>> justify their number... or would it be easier to hide OR may be do
>>>> >>> another
>>>> >>>> one the same way... LOL
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>> On Tue, Dec 11, 2012 at 2:39 AM, Tim Cribbs Jr.
<tmcribbs_at_gmail.com>
>>>> >>> wrote:
>>>> >>>>>
>>>> >>>>> I think what he is saying is - if a company claims that they can
teach
>>>> >>>>> you the entire blueprint in 11 days - with a guarantee - that it
is
>>>> >>>>> way too suspicious. The guarantee just makes it more suspicious.
>>>> >>>>> Anyone can claim to teach you the blueprint in 11 days, but to
>>>> >>>>> guarantee passing based on having you take just a couple
"practice"
>>>> >>>>> labs makes it plainly obvious. I really don't know what the
confusion
>>>> >>>>> is on this...
>>>> >>>>>
>>>> >>>>> Tim
>>>> >>>>>
>>>> >>>>> On Mon, Dec 10, 2012 at 3:46 PM, Haroon <itguy.pro_at_gmail.com>
wrote:
>>>> >>>>>> Ahmed,
>>>> >>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>> so, what is the problem with the guarantee? Are you saying that
even
>>>> >>>>>> though
>>>> >>>>>> they offer a guarantee, you still can't pass the lab? There is a
>>>> >> hint
>>>> >>> in
>>>> >>>>>> there somewhere. ;)
>>>> >>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>> On Mon, Dec 10, 2012 at 3:39 PM, Ahmed <ahmedsalim_at_gmail.com>
>>>> >> wrote:
>>>> >>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>> I certainly believe so put have no proof. But this topic has
been
>>>> >>>>>>> discussed
>>>> >>>>>>> here over and over again. The reason I have posted this is
because
>>>> >>>>>>> emtech
>>>> >>>>>>> is a big cisco player, and a big training institute. If they are
>>>> >>> doing
>>>> >>>>>>> this
>>>> >>>>>>> openly, blatantly, in front of Cisco's eyes and ears, than this
is
>>>> >>>>>>> definitely a show stopper.
>>>> >>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>> How can something like this be ignored by cisco I have already
>>>> >>>>>>> reported
>>>> >>>>>>> this , lets see what happens.
>>>> >>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>> Ahmed
>>>> >>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>> On 11 Dec 2012, at 00:02, Steve Di Bias <sdibias_at_gmail.com>
wrote:
>>>> >>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>> Ahmed, are you certain they are selling dumps like you suggest?
If
>>>> >> so
>>>> >>>>>>> report them to Cisco
>>>> >> http://www.cisco.com/web/learning/le3/ccie/exam/violation_rules.html
>>>> >>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>> Cheers!
>>>> >>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>> On Mon, Dec 10, 2012 at 7:46 AM, Ahmed <ahmedsalim_at_gmail.com>
>>>> >> wrote:
>>>> >>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>> I've received the below email . This is both a cisco partner
and
>>>> >> a
>>>> >>>>>>> training
>>>> >>>>>>>> institute. This looks highly highly suspicious. Can we/Cisco do
>>>> >>>>>>>> something
>>>> >>>>>>>> about this and stop this non-sense.
>>>> >>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>> I'm forwarding it as received.
>>>> >>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>> Ahmed
>>>> >>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>>>> >>>>>>>> From: S.P Menon <spmenon_at_emtech.ae>
>>>> >>>>>>>> Date: Mon, Dec 10, 2012 at 9:12 AM
>>>> >>>>>>>> Subject: CCIE with Pass Guarantee
>>>> >>>>>>>> To: "S.P Menon" <spmenon_at_emtech.ae>
>>>> >>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>> *CCIE R&S with Passing Guarantee*
>>>> >>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>> ** **
>>>> >>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>> ** **
>>>> >>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>> This is an 11 days Program. We need you to be present at the
>>>> >>>>>>>> institute
>>>> >>>>>>> all
>>>> >>>>>>>> these days before your exams. There would be 3 model exams that
>>>> >> we
>>>> >>>>>>> provide
>>>> >>>>>>>> and you will have to clear at least 2 exams for you to qualify
>>>> >> for
>>>> >>>>>>>> this
>>>> >>>>>>>> program. Once you qualify for this program, If you do not pass
>>>> >> the
>>>> >>>>>>>> CCIE
>>>> >>>>>>> Lab
>>>> >>>>>>>> Exam in the first attempt, we will reimburse you the Lab Exam
fee
>>>> >>> of
>>>> >>>>>>>> USD
>>>> >>>>>>>> 1500.00 once you produce the confirmation that you have booked
>>>> >> the
>>>> >>>>>>>> CCIE
>>>> >>>>>>> Lab
>>>> >>>>>>>> Exam for the second time.****
>>>> >>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>> ** **
>>>> >>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>> Following is the daily plan of action for this program;****
>>>> >>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>> ** **
>>>> >>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>> **C **Day 1: Model Exam 1****
>>>> >>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>> ** **
>>>> >>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>> **C **Days 2 & 3: Practice based on feedback of Model Exam
>>>> >> 1.****
>>>> >>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>> ** **
>>>> >>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>> **C **Day 4: Model Exam 2****
>>>> >>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>> ** **
>>>> >>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>> **C **Days 5 & 6: Practice based on feedback of Model Exam
>>>> >> 2****
>>>> >>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>> ** **
>>>> >>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>> **C **Day 7: Model Exam 3.****
>>>> >>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>> ** **
>>>> >>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>> **C **Days 8, 9 & 10: Practice based on feedback of Model
Exam
>>>> >>>>>>>> 3****
>>>> >>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>> ** **
>>>> >>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>> **C **Day 11: Final Discussions before CCIE Lab Exam based on
>>>> >> all
>>>> >>>>>>>> feedbacks & corrective actions taken.****
>>>> >>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>> ** **
>>>> >>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>> ** **
>>>> >>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>> These Model Exams cost AED 800.00 each and in case you are
unable
>>>> >>> to
>>>> >>>>>>> clear
>>>> >>>>>>>> 2 out of 3, you may take extra lab exams by making extra
payment
>>>> >> of
>>>> >>>>>>>> AED
>>>> >>>>>>>> 800.00 per lab.****
>>>> >>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>> ** **
>>>> >>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>> ** **
>>>> >>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>> * *
>>>> >>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>> Best Regards,****
>>>> >>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>> * *
>>>> >>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>> *Sreejith Menon
>>>> >>>>>>>> Key Account Manager - Corporate Training
>>>> >>>>>>>> Emtech Computer Institute
>>>> >>>>>>>> P.O. Box 28023, Dubai, UAE*
>>>> >>>>>>>>
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>>>> >>>>>>>> Tel: +9714 3583005 Ext: 302
>>>> >>>>>>>> Fax: +9714 3583321
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>>>> >>>>>>>>
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>>>> >>>>>>>> ****
>>>> >>>>>>>>
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>>>> >>>>>>>>
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