Re: CCIE with Pass Guarantee

Jummavision, in looking on certcollection.org (not logged in) I could
not find anything from Narbik. Perhaps you could shed some light as
to why that is.

On Wed, Dec 12, 2012 at 7:02 AM, JV <jummavision_at_gmail.com> wrote:
> Very true
>
> I feel so bad when I see contribution like Narbic and true champion from
> whine I learn basics and these cheater who selling that stuff to candidates
>
> I wish some one can really stop them ASAP
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On 12/12/2012, at 10:56 PM, Muhammad Nasim <muhammad.nasim_at_gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Their are tripple CCIE, I know personally people they just studied CCIE CERT
> and attmplet lab 6 times and finally got it.
>
> I told them brother it is better u study some labs from vendors some
> practicse some WB but NO. they are fully dependent on labs
>
> Another one, I know one guy good guy, he studeid vendors first and then move
> to the REAL LAB. He got a question and he was sure that REAL Lab answer is
> WROING but he still write the WRONG ANSWER in the exam : 0
>
> This thing already made the market BAD , now it will only get WORSE.
>
> Sorry but it is TRUE
>
>
> On Wed, Dec 12, 2012 at 2:50 PM, Jumma <jummavision_at_gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Every Tom Dic and hurry claiming CCIE
>> I feel like to start studying other venders
>>
>> Buy the way
>>
>> What about pass4sure
>>
>> Did any one got them
>>
>> It's all money making bull shit man
>>
>> Excuse my language. I spend 10 years in this industry feel so bad have
>> that kind if people in networking
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On 12/12/2012, at 10:41 PM, Muhammad Nasim <muhammad.nasim_at_gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> We did like 4 years back to cisco, with more details like proctor involved
>> and also the other details but nothing happen : )
>>
>> I wish best of luck to Narbik to raise the voice to cisco.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Dec 12, 2012 at 2:37 PM, Jumma <jummavision_at_gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Narbic,
>>>
>>> I really appreciate your contribution in networking
>>>
>>> If u really wana bust just bust
>>>
>>> Www.cciecert.net
>>>
>>> They are in Korea
>>>
>>> More detail can be provides
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>> On 11/12/2012, at 1:37 PM, Narbik Kocharians <narbikk_at_gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> > I would LOVE to know the list, because I can stop them.
>>> >
>>> > On Mon, Dec 10, 2012 at 5:43 PM, Adesh Chaudhary <
>>> > er.adeshchaudhary_at_gmail.com> wrote:
>>> >
>>> >> Dear Tim,
>>> >>
>>> >> Neither I mean to offend, Nor I am judging anyone.
>>> >>
>>> >> There are X number of vendors out there that are supplying these labs
>>> >> for
>>> >> many years, that too along with Guarantees. let me know if you want a
>>> >> list?
>>> >>
>>> >> You think Cisco is unaware of them? If Yes, I'd say WoWwwwww... If I
>>> >> am
>>> >> being apathaetic, What is Cisco doing? Don't they know how to google
>>> >> or
>>> >> what? Why don't they change the labs that frequently? If No, What did
>>> >> they
>>> >> do about it? Maybe something without results, I don't know.
>>> >>
>>> >> Come on... they took jeremy cioara's blog down few years back, you
>>> >> think
>>> >> they can't take on these sites?
>>> >>
>>> >> I make my choices, you make yours, others will choose for themselves.
>>> >> End
>>> >> of the story.
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> On Tue, Dec 11, 2012 at 6:35 AM, Tim Cribbs Jr. <tmcribbs_at_gmail.com>
>>> >> wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >>> I think we all have a solid understanding of what happens in
>>> >>> interviews to those who dump, no hidden fact. But lots of us DO care
>>> >>> about this topic, so to be so apathetic about it says a lot about
>>> >>> you.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> ...LOL
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>> On Mon, Dec 10, 2012 at 5:44 PM, Adesh Chaudhary
>>> >>> <er.adeshchaudhary_at_gmail.com> wrote:
>>> >>>> ccie exam has limited sets, No hidden fact. What if I give you mock
>>> >>>> questions with same topology (replace Ethernet with serial or
>>> >>>> whatever)
>>> >>> and
>>> >>>> similar IP's (replace subnet X with Y) & I think that should be
>>> >>>> enough.
>>> >>> They
>>> >>>> are Cisco Partners... If using dumps, I believe they'd have found a
>>> >>>> workaround OR dont know OR dont care OR whatever. For those who will
>>> >>> pass,
>>> >>>> will struggle in interviews OR even get a job but what next ???
>>> >> Struggle
>>> >>> to
>>> >>>> justify their number... or would it be easier to hide OR may be do
>>> >>> another
>>> >>>> one the same way... LOL
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> On Tue, Dec 11, 2012 at 2:39 AM, Tim Cribbs Jr. <tmcribbs_at_gmail.com>
>>> >>> wrote:
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>> I think what he is saying is - if a company claims that they can
>>> >>>>> teach
>>> >>>>> you the entire blueprint in 11 days - with a guarantee - that it is
>>> >>>>> way too suspicious. The guarantee just makes it more suspicious.
>>> >>>>> Anyone can claim to teach you the blueprint in 11 days, but to
>>> >>>>> guarantee passing based on having you take just a couple "practice"
>>> >>>>> labs makes it plainly obvious. I really don't know what the
>>> >>>>> confusion
>>> >>>>> is on this...
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>> Tim
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>> On Mon, Dec 10, 2012 at 3:46 PM, Haroon <itguy.pro_at_gmail.com>
>>> >>>>> wrote:
>>> >>>>>> Ahmed,
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>>>>> so, what is the problem with the guarantee? Are you saying that
>>> >>>>>> even
>>> >>>>>> though
>>> >>>>>> they offer a guarantee, you still can't pass the lab? There is a
>>> >> hint
>>> >>> in
>>> >>>>>> there somewhere. ;)
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>>>>> On Mon, Dec 10, 2012 at 3:39 PM, Ahmed <ahmedsalim_at_gmail.com>
>>> >> wrote:
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>> I certainly believe so put have no proof. But this topic has been
>>> >>>>>>> discussed
>>> >>>>>>> here over and over again. The reason I have posted this is
>>> >>>>>>> because
>>> >>>>>>> emtech
>>> >>>>>>> is a big cisco player, and a big training institute. If they are
>>> >>> doing
>>> >>>>>>> this
>>> >>>>>>> openly, blatantly, in front of Cisco's eyes and ears, than this
>>> >>>>>>> is
>>> >>>>>>> definitely a show stopper.
>>> >>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>> How can something like this be ignored by cisco I have already
>>> >>>>>>> reported
>>> >>>>>>> this , lets see what happens.
>>> >>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>> Ahmed
>>> >>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>> On 11 Dec 2012, at 00:02, Steve Di Bias <sdibias_at_gmail.com>
>>> >>>>>>> wrote:
>>> >>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>> Ahmed, are you certain they are selling dumps like you suggest?
>>> >>>>>>> If
>>> >> so
>>> >>>>>>> report them to Cisco
>>> >> http://www.cisco.com/web/learning/le3/ccie/exam/violation_rules.html
>>> >>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>> Cheers!
>>> >>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>> On Mon, Dec 10, 2012 at 7:46 AM, Ahmed <ahmedsalim_at_gmail.com>
>>> >> wrote:
>>> >>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>> I've received the below email . This is both a cisco partner and
>>> >> a
>>> >>>>>>> training
>>> >>>>>>>> institute. This looks highly highly suspicious. Can we/Cisco do
>>> >>>>>>>> something
>>> >>>>>>>> about this and stop this non-sense.
>>> >>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>> I'm forwarding it as received.
>>> >>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>> Ahmed
>>> >>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>>> >>>>>>>> From: S.P Menon <spmenon_at_emtech.ae>
>>> >>>>>>>> Date: Mon, Dec 10, 2012 at 9:12 AM
>>> >>>>>>>> Subject: CCIE with Pass Guarantee
>>> >>>>>>>> To: "S.P Menon" <spmenon_at_emtech.ae>
>>> >>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>> *CCIE R&S with Passing Guarantee*
>>> >>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>> ** **
>>> >>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>> ** **
>>> >>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>> This is an 11 days Program. We need you to be present at the
>>> >>>>>>>> institute
>>> >>>>>>> all
>>> >>>>>>>> these days before your exams. There would be 3 model exams that
>>> >> we
>>> >>>>>>> provide
>>> >>>>>>>> and you will have to clear at least 2 exams for you to qualify
>>> >> for
>>> >>>>>>>> this
>>> >>>>>>>> program. Once you qualify for this program, If you do not pass
>>> >> the
>>> >>>>>>>> CCIE
>>> >>>>>>> Lab
>>> >>>>>>>> Exam in the first attempt, we will reimburse you the Lab Exam
>>> >>>>>>>> fee
>>> >>> of
>>> >>>>>>>> USD
>>> >>>>>>>> 1500.00 once you produce the confirmation that you have booked
>>> >> the
>>> >>>>>>>> CCIE
>>> >>>>>>> Lab
>>> >>>>>>>> Exam for the second time.****
>>> >>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>> ** **
>>> >>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>> Following is the daily plan of action for this program;****
>>> >>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>> ** **
>>> >>>>>>>>
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>>> >>>>>>>>
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>>> >>>>>>>>
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>>> >>>>>>>>
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>>> >>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>> ** **
>>> >>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>> ** **
>>> >>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>> These Model Exams cost AED 800.00 each and in case you are
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>>> >>> to
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