Re: CCIE with Pass Guarantee

Tim,
You almost made my day and I got very excited but you searched the wrong
place, i searched google and one of the entries was the following, did you
try the other companies? Here:
http://certcollection.org/forum/topic/101640-narbik-kocharians-advanced-ccie-rs-v20-e-work-book-latest-v4/

Guys, I have done some research on the actual instructors that teach in
some of these places and I am already talking to someone at Cisco, and i
will let you guys know what their response is, but I need to know the
companies that offer full guarantee and companies that cheat and PLEASE
UNICAST ME, we don't need to advertise their services.

On Wed, Dec 12, 2012 at 8:11 AM, Tim Cribbs Jr. <tmcribbs_at_gmail.com> wrote:

> Jummavision, in looking on certcollection.org (not logged in) I could
> not find anything from Narbik. Perhaps you could shed some light as
> to why that is.
>
>
>
> On Wed, Dec 12, 2012 at 7:02 AM, JV <jummavision_at_gmail.com> wrote:
> > Very true
> >
> > I feel so bad when I see contribution like Narbic and true champion from
> > whine I learn basics and these cheater who selling that stuff to
> candidates
> >
> > I wish some one can really stop them ASAP
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
> >
> > On 12/12/2012, at 10:56 PM, Muhammad Nasim <muhammad.nasim_at_gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > Their are tripple CCIE, I know personally people they just studied CCIE
> CERT
> > and attmplet lab 6 times and finally got it.
> >
> > I told them brother it is better u study some labs from vendors some
> > practicse some WB but NO. they are fully dependent on labs
> >
> > Another one, I know one guy good guy, he studeid vendors first and then
> move
> > to the REAL LAB. He got a question and he was sure that REAL Lab answer
> is
> > WROING but he still write the WRONG ANSWER in the exam : 0
> >
> > This thing already made the market BAD , now it will only get WORSE.
> >
> > Sorry but it is TRUE
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Dec 12, 2012 at 2:50 PM, Jumma <jummavision_at_gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> Every Tom Dic and hurry claiming CCIE
> >> I feel like to start studying other venders
> >>
> >> Buy the way
> >>
> >> What about pass4sure
> >>
> >> Did any one got them
> >>
> >> It's all money making bull shit man
> >>
> >> Excuse my language. I spend 10 years in this industry feel so bad have
> >> that kind if people in networking
> >>
> >> Sent from my iPhone
> >>
> >> On 12/12/2012, at 10:41 PM, Muhammad Nasim <muhammad.nasim_at_gmail.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> We did like 4 years back to cisco, with more details like proctor
> involved
> >> and also the other details but nothing happen : )
> >>
> >> I wish best of luck to Narbik to raise the voice to cisco.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Wed, Dec 12, 2012 at 2:37 PM, Jumma <jummavision_at_gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Hi Narbic,
> >>>
> >>> I really appreciate your contribution in networking
> >>>
> >>> If u really wana bust just bust
> >>>
> >>> Www.cciecert.net
> >>>
> >>> They are in Korea
> >>>
> >>> More detail can be provides
> >>>
> >>> Sent from my iPhone
> >>>
> >>> On 11/12/2012, at 1:37 PM, Narbik Kocharians <narbikk_at_gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> > I would LOVE to know the list, because I can stop them.
> >>> >
> >>> > On Mon, Dec 10, 2012 at 5:43 PM, Adesh Chaudhary <
> >>> > er.adeshchaudhary_at_gmail.com> wrote:
> >>> >
> >>> >> Dear Tim,
> >>> >>
> >>> >> Neither I mean to offend, Nor I am judging anyone.
> >>> >>
> >>> >> There are X number of vendors out there that are supplying these
> labs
> >>> >> for
> >>> >> many years, that too along with Guarantees. let me know if you want
> a
> >>> >> list?
> >>> >>
> >>> >> You think Cisco is unaware of them? If Yes, I'd say WoWwwwww... If I
> >>> >> am
> >>> >> being apathaetic, What is Cisco doing? Don't they know how to google
> >>> >> or
> >>> >> what? Why don't they change the labs that frequently? If No, What
> did
> >>> >> they
> >>> >> do about it? Maybe something without results, I don't know.
> >>> >>
> >>> >> Come on... they took jeremy cioara's blog down few years back, you
> >>> >> think
> >>> >> they can't take on these sites?
> >>> >>
> >>> >> I make my choices, you make yours, others will choose for
> themselves.
> >>> >> End
> >>> >> of the story.
> >>> >>
> >>> >>
> >>> >>
> >>> >> On Tue, Dec 11, 2012 at 6:35 AM, Tim Cribbs Jr. <tmcribbs_at_gmail.com
> >
> >>> >> wrote:
> >>> >>
> >>> >>> I think we all have a solid understanding of what happens in
> >>> >>> interviews to those who dump, no hidden fact. But lots of us DO
> care
> >>> >>> about this topic, so to be so apathetic about it says a lot about
> >>> >>> you.
> >>> >>>
> >>> >>> ...LOL
> >>> >>>
> >>> >>>
> >>> >>> On Mon, Dec 10, 2012 at 5:44 PM, Adesh Chaudhary
> >>> >>> <er.adeshchaudhary_at_gmail.com> wrote:
> >>> >>>> ccie exam has limited sets, No hidden fact. What if I give you
> mock
> >>> >>>> questions with same topology (replace Ethernet with serial or
> >>> >>>> whatever)
> >>> >>> and
> >>> >>>> similar IP's (replace subnet X with Y) & I think that should be
> >>> >>>> enough.
> >>> >>> They
> >>> >>>> are Cisco Partners... If using dumps, I believe they'd have found
> a
> >>> >>>> workaround OR dont know OR dont care OR whatever. For those who
> will
> >>> >>> pass,
> >>> >>>> will struggle in interviews OR even get a job but what next ???
> >>> >> Struggle
> >>> >>> to
> >>> >>>> justify their number... or would it be easier to hide OR may be do
> >>> >>> another
> >>> >>>> one the same way... LOL
> >>> >>>>
> >>> >>>>
> >>> >>>> On Tue, Dec 11, 2012 at 2:39 AM, Tim Cribbs Jr. <
> tmcribbs_at_gmail.com>
> >>> >>> wrote:
> >>> >>>>>
> >>> >>>>> I think what he is saying is - if a company claims that they can
> >>> >>>>> teach
> >>> >>>>> you the entire blueprint in 11 days - with a guarantee - that it
> is
> >>> >>>>> way too suspicious. The guarantee just makes it more suspicious.
> >>> >>>>> Anyone can claim to teach you the blueprint in 11 days, but to
> >>> >>>>> guarantee passing based on having you take just a couple
> "practice"
> >>> >>>>> labs makes it plainly obvious. I really don't know what the
> >>> >>>>> confusion
> >>> >>>>> is on this...
> >>> >>>>>
> >>> >>>>> Tim
> >>> >>>>>
> >>> >>>>> On Mon, Dec 10, 2012 at 3:46 PM, Haroon <itguy.pro_at_gmail.com>
> >>> >>>>> wrote:
> >>> >>>>>> Ahmed,
> >>> >>>>>>
> >>> >>>>>> so, what is the problem with the guarantee? Are you saying that
> >>> >>>>>> even
> >>> >>>>>> though
> >>> >>>>>> they offer a guarantee, you still can't pass the lab? There is a
> >>> >> hint
> >>> >>> in
> >>> >>>>>> there somewhere. ;)
> >>> >>>>>>
> >>> >>>>>> On Mon, Dec 10, 2012 at 3:39 PM, Ahmed <ahmedsalim_at_gmail.com>
> >>> >> wrote:
> >>> >>>>>>
> >>> >>>>>>> I certainly believe so put have no proof. But this topic has
> been
> >>> >>>>>>> discussed
> >>> >>>>>>> here over and over again. The reason I have posted this is
> >>> >>>>>>> because
> >>> >>>>>>> emtech
> >>> >>>>>>> is a big cisco player, and a big training institute. If they
> are
> >>> >>> doing
> >>> >>>>>>> this
> >>> >>>>>>> openly, blatantly, in front of Cisco's eyes and ears, than this
> >>> >>>>>>> is
> >>> >>>>>>> definitely a show stopper.
> >>> >>>>>>>
> >>> >>>>>>> How can something like this be ignored by cisco I have already
> >>> >>>>>>> reported
> >>> >>>>>>> this , lets see what happens.
> >>> >>>>>>>
> >>> >>>>>>> Ahmed
> >>> >>>>>>>
> >>> >>>>>>> On 11 Dec 2012, at 00:02, Steve Di Bias <sdibias_at_gmail.com>
> >>> >>>>>>> wrote:
> >>> >>>>>>>
> >>> >>>>>>> Ahmed, are you certain they are selling dumps like you suggest?
> >>> >>>>>>> If
> >>> >> so
> >>> >>>>>>> report them to Cisco
> >>> >>
> http://www.cisco.com/web/learning/le3/ccie/exam/violation_rules.html
> >>> >>>>>>>
> >>> >>>>>>> Cheers!
> >>> >>>>>>>
> >>> >>>>>>>
> >>> >>>>>>> On Mon, Dec 10, 2012 at 7:46 AM, Ahmed <ahmedsalim_at_gmail.com>
> >>> >> wrote:
> >>> >>>>>>>
> >>> >>>>>>>> I've received the below email . This is both a cisco partner
> and
> >>> >> a
> >>> >>>>>>> training
> >>> >>>>>>>> institute. This looks highly highly suspicious. Can we/Cisco
> do
> >>> >>>>>>>> something
> >>> >>>>>>>> about this and stop this non-sense.
> >>> >>>>>>>>
> >>> >>>>>>>> I'm forwarding it as received.
> >>> >>>>>>>>
> >>> >>>>>>>> Ahmed
> >>> >>>>>>>>
> >>> >>>>>>>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> >>> >>>>>>>> From: S.P Menon <spmenon_at_emtech.ae>
> >>> >>>>>>>> Date: Mon, Dec 10, 2012 at 9:12 AM
> >>> >>>>>>>> Subject: CCIE with Pass Guarantee
> >>> >>>>>>>> To: "S.P Menon" <spmenon_at_emtech.ae>
> >>> >>>>>>>>
> >>> >>>>>>>>
> >>> >>>>>>>> *CCIE R&S with Passing Guarantee*
> >>> >>>>>>>>
> >>> >>>>>>>> ** **
> >>> >>>>>>>>
> >>> >>>>>>>> ** **
> >>> >>>>>>>>
> >>> >>>>>>>> This is an 11 days Program. We need you to be present at the
> >>> >>>>>>>> institute
> >>> >>>>>>> all
> >>> >>>>>>>> these days before your exams. There would be 3 model exams
> that
> >>> >> we
> >>> >>>>>>> provide
> >>> >>>>>>>> and you will have to clear at least 2 exams for you to qualify
> >>> >> for
> >>> >>>>>>>> this
> >>> >>>>>>>> program. Once you qualify for this program, If you do not pass
> >>> >> the
> >>> >>>>>>>> CCIE
> >>> >>>>>>> Lab
> >>> >>>>>>>> Exam in the first attempt, we will reimburse you the Lab Exam
> >>> >>>>>>>> fee
> >>> >>> of
> >>> >>>>>>>> USD
> >>> >>>>>>>> 1500.00 once you produce the confirmation that you have booked
> >>> >> the
> >>> >>>>>>>> CCIE
> >>> >>>>>>> Lab
> >>> >>>>>>>> Exam for the second time.****
> >>> >>>>>>>>
> >>> >>>>>>>> ** **
> >>> >>>>>>>>
> >>> >>>>>>>> Following is the daily plan of action for this program;****
> >>> >>>>>>>>
> >>> >>>>>>>> ** **
> >>> >>>>>>>>
> >>> >>>>>>>> **C **Day 1: Model Exam 1****
> >>> >>>>>>>>
> >>> >>>>>>>> ** **
> >>> >>>>>>>>
> >>> >>>>>>>> **C **Days 2 & 3: Practice based on feedback of Model Exam
> >>> >> 1.****
> >>> >>>>>>>>
> >>> >>>>>>>> ** **
> >>> >>>>>>>>
> >>> >>>>>>>> **C **Day 4: Model Exam 2****
> >>> >>>>>>>>
> >>> >>>>>>>> ** **
> >>> >>>>>>>>
> >>> >>>>>>>> **C **Days 5 & 6: Practice based on feedback of Model Exam
> >>> >> 2****
> >>> >>>>>>>>
> >>> >>>>>>>> ** **
> >>> >>>>>>>>
> >>> >>>>>>>> **C **Day 7: Model Exam 3.****
> >>> >>>>>>>>
> >>> >>>>>>>> ** **
> >>> >>>>>>>>
> >>> >>>>>>>> **C **Days 8, 9 & 10: Practice based on feedback of Model
> Exam
> >>> >>>>>>>> 3****
> >>> >>>>>>>>
> >>> >>>>>>>> ** **
> >>> >>>>>>>>
> >>> >>>>>>>> **C **Day 11: Final Discussions before CCIE Lab Exam based
> on
> >>> >> all
> >>> >>>>>>>> feedbacks & corrective actions taken.****
> >>> >>>>>>>>
> >>> >>>>>>>> ** **
> >>> >>>>>>>>
> >>> >>>>>>>> ** **
> >>> >>>>>>>>
> >>> >>>>>>>> These Model Exams cost AED 800.00 each and in case you are
> >>> >>>>>>>> unable
> >>> >>> to
> >>> >>>>>>> clear
> >>> >>>>>>>> 2 out of 3, you may take extra lab exams by making extra
> payment
> >>> >> of
> >>> >>>>>>>> AED
> >>> >>>>>>>> 800.00 per lab.****
> >>> >>>>>>>>
> >>> >>>>>>>> ** **
> >>> >>>>>>>>
> >>> >>>>>>>> ** **
> >>> >>>>>>>>
> >>> >>>>>>>> * *
> >>> >>>>>>>>
> >>> >>>>>>>> Best Regards,****
> >>> >>>>>>>>
> >>> >>>>>>>> * *
> >>> >>>>>>>>
> >>> >>>>>>>> *Sreejith Menon
> >>> >>>>>>>> Key Account Manager - Corporate Training
> >>> >>>>>>>> Emtech Computer Institute
> >>> >>>>>>>> P.O. Box 28023, Dubai, UAE*
> >>> >>>>>>>>
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> >>> >>>>>>>> Tel: +9714 3583005 Ext: 302
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> >>> >>>>>>>>
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> >>> >>>>>>>>
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> >>> > --
> >>> > *Narbik Kocharians
> >>> > *CCSI#30832, CCIE# 12410 (R&S, SP, Security)
> >>> > *www.MicronicsTraining.com* <http://www.micronicstraining.com/>
> >>> > Sr. Technical Instructor
> >>> > YES! We take Cisco Learning Credits!
> >>> > A Cisco Learning Partner
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> >>
> >> --
> >> Muhammad Nasim
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Muhammad Nasim
> >
> >
>

-- 
*Narbik Kocharians
*CCSI#30832, CCIE# 12410 (R&S, SP, Security)
*www.MicronicsTraining.com* <http://www.micronicstraining.com/>
Sr. Technical Instructor
YES! We take Cisco Learning Credits!
A Cisco Learning Partner
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