Re: CCIE with Pass Guarantee

Their are tripple CCIE, I know personally people they just studied CCIE
CERT
and attmplet lab 6 times and finally got it.

I told them brother it is better u study some labs from vendors some
practicse some WB but NO. they are fully dependent on labs

Another one, I know one guy good guy, he studeid vendors first and then
move to the REAL LAB. He got a question and he was sure that REAL Lab
answer is WROING but he still write the WRONG ANSWER in the exam : 0

This thing already made the market BAD , now it will only get WORSE.

Sorry but it is TRUE

On Wed, Dec 12, 2012 at 2:50 PM, Jumma <jummavision_at_gmail.com> wrote:

> Every Tom Dic and hurry claiming CCIE
> I feel like to start studying other venders
>
> Buy the way
>
> What about pass4sure
>
> Did any one got them
>
> It's all money making bull shit man
>
> Excuse my language. I spend 10 years in this industry feel so bad have
> that kind if people in networking
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On 12/12/2012, at 10:41 PM, Muhammad Nasim <muhammad.nasim_at_gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> We did like 4 years back to cisco, with more details like
> proctor involved and also the other details but nothing happen : )
>
> I wish best of luck to Narbik to raise the voice to cisco.
>
>
>
>
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> On Wed, Dec 12, 2012 at 2:37 PM, Jumma <jummavision_at_gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi Narbic,
>>
>> I really appreciate your contribution in networking
>>
>> If u really wana bust just bust
>>
>> Www.cciecert.net
>>
>> They are in Korea
>>
>> More detail can be provides
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On 11/12/2012, at 1:37 PM, Narbik Kocharians <narbikk_at_gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> > I would LOVE to know the list, because I can stop them.
>> >
>> > On Mon, Dec 10, 2012 at 5:43 PM, Adesh Chaudhary <
>> > er.adeshchaudhary_at_gmail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >> Dear Tim,
>> >>
>> >> Neither I mean to offend, Nor I am judging anyone.
>> >>
>> >> There are X number of vendors out there that are supplying these labs
>> for
>> >> many years, that too along with Guarantees. let me know if you want a
>> list?
>> >>
>> >> You think Cisco is unaware of them? If Yes, I'd say WoWwwwww... If I am
>> >> being apathaetic, What is Cisco doing? Don't they know how to google or
>> >> what? Why don't they change the labs that frequently? If No, What did
>> they
>> >> do about it? Maybe something without results, I don't know.
>> >>
>> >> Come on... they took jeremy cioara's blog down few years back, you
>> think
>> >> they can't take on these sites?
>> >>
>> >> I make my choices, you make yours, others will choose for themselves.
>> End
>> >> of the story.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On Tue, Dec 11, 2012 at 6:35 AM, Tim Cribbs Jr. <tmcribbs_at_gmail.com>
>> >> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> I think we all have a solid understanding of what happens in
>> >>> interviews to those who dump, no hidden fact. But lots of us DO care
>> >>> about this topic, so to be so apathetic about it says a lot about you.
>> >>>
>> >>> ...LOL
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> On Mon, Dec 10, 2012 at 5:44 PM, Adesh Chaudhary
>> >>> <er.adeshchaudhary_at_gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>>> ccie exam has limited sets, No hidden fact. What if I give you mock
>> >>>> questions with same topology (replace Ethernet with serial or
>> whatever)
>> >>> and
>> >>>> similar IP's (replace subnet X with Y) & I think that should be
>> enough.
>> >>> They
>> >>>> are Cisco Partners... If using dumps, I believe they'd have found a
>> >>>> workaround OR dont know OR dont care OR whatever. For those who will
>> >>> pass,
>> >>>> will struggle in interviews OR even get a job but what next ???
>> >> Struggle
>> >>> to
>> >>>> justify their number... or would it be easier to hide OR may be do
>> >>> another
>> >>>> one the same way... LOL
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> On Tue, Dec 11, 2012 at 2:39 AM, Tim Cribbs Jr. <tmcribbs_at_gmail.com>
>> >>> wrote:
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> I think what he is saying is - if a company claims that they can
>> teach
>> >>>>> you the entire blueprint in 11 days - with a guarantee - that it is
>> >>>>> way too suspicious. The guarantee just makes it more suspicious.
>> >>>>> Anyone can claim to teach you the blueprint in 11 days, but to
>> >>>>> guarantee passing based on having you take just a couple "practice"
>> >>>>> labs makes it plainly obvious. I really don't know what the
>> confusion
>> >>>>> is on this...
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Tim
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> On Mon, Dec 10, 2012 at 3:46 PM, Haroon <itguy.pro_at_gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> >>>>>> Ahmed,
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> so, what is the problem with the guarantee? Are you saying that
>> even
>> >>>>>> though
>> >>>>>> they offer a guarantee, you still can't pass the lab? There is a
>> >> hint
>> >>> in
>> >>>>>> there somewhere. ;)
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> On Mon, Dec 10, 2012 at 3:39 PM, Ahmed <ahmedsalim_at_gmail.com>
>> >> wrote:
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> I certainly believe so put have no proof. But this topic has been
>> >>>>>>> discussed
>> >>>>>>> here over and over again. The reason I have posted this is because
>> >>>>>>> emtech
>> >>>>>>> is a big cisco player, and a big training institute. If they are
>> >>> doing
>> >>>>>>> this
>> >>>>>>> openly, blatantly, in front of Cisco's eyes and ears, than this is
>> >>>>>>> definitely a show stopper.
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> How can something like this be ignored by cisco I have already
>> >>>>>>> reported
>> >>>>>>> this , lets see what happens.
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> Ahmed
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> On 11 Dec 2012, at 00:02, Steve Di Bias <sdibias_at_gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> Ahmed, are you certain they are selling dumps like you suggest? If
>> >> so
>> >>>>>>> report them to Cisco
>> >> http://www.cisco.com/web/learning/le3/ccie/exam/violation_rules.html
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> Cheers!
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> On Mon, Dec 10, 2012 at 7:46 AM, Ahmed <ahmedsalim_at_gmail.com>
>> >> wrote:
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> I've received the below email . This is both a cisco partner and
>> >> a
>> >>>>>>> training
>> >>>>>>>> institute. This looks highly highly suspicious. Can we/Cisco do
>> >>>>>>>> something
>> >>>>>>>> about this and stop this non-sense.
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> I'm forwarding it as received.
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> Ahmed
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>> >>>>>>>> From: S.P Menon <spmenon_at_emtech.ae>
>> >>>>>>>> Date: Mon, Dec 10, 2012 at 9:12 AM
>> >>>>>>>> Subject: CCIE with Pass Guarantee
>> >>>>>>>> To: "S.P Menon" <spmenon_at_emtech.ae>
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> *CCIE R&S with Passing Guarantee*
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> ** **
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> ** **
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> This is an 11 days Program. We need you to be present at the
>> >>>>>>>> institute
>> >>>>>>> all
>> >>>>>>>> these days before your exams. There would be 3 model exams that
>> >> we
>> >>>>>>> provide
>> >>>>>>>> and you will have to clear at least 2 exams for you to qualify
>> >> for
>> >>>>>>>> this
>> >>>>>>>> program. Once you qualify for this program, If you do not pass
>> >> the
>> >>>>>>>> CCIE
>> >>>>>>> Lab
>> >>>>>>>> Exam in the first attempt, we will reimburse you the Lab Exam fee
>> >>> of
>> >>>>>>>> USD
>> >>>>>>>> 1500.00 once you produce the confirmation that you have booked
>> >> the
>> >>>>>>>> CCIE
>> >>>>>>> Lab
>> >>>>>>>> Exam for the second time.****
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> ** **
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> Following is the daily plan of action for this program;****
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> ** **
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> **C **Day 1: Model Exam 1****
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> ** **
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> **C **Days 2 & 3: Practice based on feedback of Model Exam
>> >> 1.****
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> ** **
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> **C **Day 4: Model Exam 2****
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> ** **
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> **C **Days 5 & 6: Practice based on feedback of Model Exam
>> >> 2****
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> ** **
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> **C **Day 7: Model Exam 3.****
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> ** **
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> **C **Days 8, 9 & 10: Practice based on feedback of Model Exam
>> >>>>>>>> 3****
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> ** **
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> **C **Day 11: Final Discussions before CCIE Lab Exam based on
>> >> all
>> >>>>>>>> feedbacks & corrective actions taken.****
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> ** **
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> ** **
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> These Model Exams cost AED 800.00 each and in case you are unable
>> >>> to
>> >>>>>>> clear
>> >>>>>>>> 2 out of 3, you may take extra lab exams by making extra payment
>> >> of
>> >>>>>>>> AED
>> >>>>>>>> 800.00 per lab.****
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> ** **
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> ** **
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> * *
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> Best Regards,****
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> * *
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> *Sreejith Menon
>> >>>>>>>> Key Account Manager - Corporate Training
>> >>>>>>>> Emtech Computer Institute
>> >>>>>>>> P.O. Box 28023, Dubai, UAE*
>> >>>>>>>>
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>> >>>>>>>> Tel: +9714 3583005 Ext: 302
>> >>>>>>>> Fax: +9714 3583321
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>> >>>>>>>>
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>> >>>>>>>>
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>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> *EMTECH COMPUTER CO. LLC** / *P. O. Box : 28023, Dubai, U.A.E.
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