Re: CCIE with Pass Guarantee

Hi Narbic,

I m sorry to say you can't stop your own work books how you gona stop them?

Just check www. Certcollection.org

U will find your workbooks there

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On 11/12/2012, at 3:41 PM, Narbik Kocharians <narbikk_at_gmail.com> wrote:

> I still don't see a list of websites. Please send them to me so I can stop
> them all. Unicast them, I won't mention your name.
>
> On Mon, Dec 10, 2012 at 8:24 PM, undaunted <undaunted_at_juno.com> wrote:
>
>> Doug,
>>
>> Talk the talk, but u can't walk the walk. Any real CCIE will tell you abot
>> the journey. The number was part of the bigger journey. Can you shortcut a
>> way to your passion to your career? There are no shortcuts just people who
>> share and work hard. My guarantee work hard and never give up. Just believe
>> in you and you will get there
>>
>>
>>
>> Sent from my Samsung Epic 4G Touch
>>
>> Doug Kenline <dkenline_at_hotmail.com> wrote:
>> There are fake Doctors, fake Lawyers, fake brain surgeons.
>> Nothing new.
>> Doug KenlinePE Jockey
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> From: mgeorge_at_geores.net
>>> To: narbikk_at_gmail.com; er.adeshchaudhary_at_gmail.com
>>> CC: tmcribbs_at_gmail.com; itguy.pro_at_gmail.com; ahmedsalim_at_gmail.com;
>> sdibias_at_gmail.com; ccielab_at_groupstudy.com; cisco_at_groupstudy.com
>>> Subject: RE: CCIE with Pass Guarantee
>>> Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2012 22:07:48 -0500
>>>
>>> This type of shit affects everyone with a CCIE number. You can weed out
>>> dumpers in an interview however these individuals that pass using dumps
>> are
>>> slowly devaluing the certification by flooding the market with CCIE
>> numbers
>>> that can be used by companies for partnership status.
>>>
>>> I hail Narbik for doing the right thing and attempting to take care of
>> what
>>> he can but in all honesty if you have the CCIE than it's in your best
>>> interest to ensure that your investment retains value.
>>>
>>> The thing that comes to mind is Star Ship Troopers where the Federation
>>> advertises "Do your part! If you see something say something."
>>>
>>> -Matthew George
>>> Free CCNA Workbook
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: nobody_at_groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody_at_groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
>>> Narbik Kocharians
>>> Sent: Monday, December 10, 2012 9:37 PM
>>> To: Adesh Chaudhary
>>> Cc: Tim Cribbs Jr.; Haroon; Ahmed; Steve Di Bias; Cisco certification;
>> Cisco
>>> certification
>>> Subject: Re: CCIE with Pass Guarantee
>>>
>>> I would LOVE to know the list, because I can stop them.
>>>
>>> On Mon, Dec 10, 2012 at 5:43 PM, Adesh Chaudhary <
>>> er.adeshchaudhary_at_gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Dear Tim,
>>>>
>>>> Neither I mean to offend, Nor I am judging anyone.
>>>>
>>>> There are X number of vendors out there that are supplying these labs
>>>> for many years, that too along with Guarantees. let me know if you
>> want a
>>> list?
>>>>
>>>> You think Cisco is unaware of them? If Yes, I'd say WoWwwwww... If I
>>>> am being apathaetic, What is Cisco doing? Don't they know how to
>>>> google or what? Why don't they change the labs that frequently? If No,
>>>> What did they do about it? Maybe something without results, I don't
>> know.
>>>>
>>>> Come on... they took jeremy cioara's blog down few years back, you
>>>> think they can't take on these sites?
>>>>
>>>> I make my choices, you make yours, others will choose for themselves.
>>>> End of the story.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Dec 11, 2012 at 6:35 AM, Tim Cribbs Jr. <tmcribbs_at_gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I think we all have a solid understanding of what happens in
>>>>> interviews to those who dump, no hidden fact. But lots of us DO care
>>>>> about this topic, so to be so apathetic about it says a lot about
>> you.
>>>>>
>>>>> ...LOL
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, Dec 10, 2012 at 5:44 PM, Adesh Chaudhary
>>>>> <er.adeshchaudhary_at_gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> ccie exam has limited sets, No hidden fact. What if I give you
>>>>>> mock questions with same topology (replace Ethernet with serial or
>>>>>> whatever)
>>>>> and
>>>>>> similar IP's (replace subnet X with Y) & I think that should be
>>> enough.
>>>>> They
>>>>>> are Cisco Partners... If using dumps, I believe they'd have found
>>>>>> a workaround OR dont know OR dont care OR whatever. For those who
>>>>>> will
>>>>> pass,
>>>>>> will struggle in interviews OR even get a job but what next ???
>>>> Struggle
>>>>> to
>>>>>> justify their number... or would it be easier to hide OR may be do
>>>>> another
>>>>>> one the same way... LOL
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Tue, Dec 11, 2012 at 2:39 AM, Tim Cribbs Jr.
>>>>>> <tmcribbs_at_gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I think what he is saying is - if a company claims that they can
>>>>>>> teach you the entire blueprint in 11 days - with a guarantee -
>>>>>>> that it is way too suspicious. The guarantee just makes it more
>>> suspicious.
>>>>>>> Anyone can claim to teach you the blueprint in 11 days, but to
>>>>>>> guarantee passing based on having you take just a couple
>> "practice"
>>>>>>> labs makes it plainly obvious. I really don't know what the
>>>>>>> confusion is on this...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Tim
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Mon, Dec 10, 2012 at 3:46 PM, Haroon <itguy.pro_at_gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>>>>>>> Ahmed,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> so, what is the problem with the guarantee? Are you saying that
>>>>>>>> even though they offer a guarantee, you still can't pass the
>>>>>>>> lab? There is a
>>>> hint
>>>>> in
>>>>>>>> there somewhere. ;)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Mon, Dec 10, 2012 at 3:39 PM, Ahmed <ahmedsalim_at_gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I certainly believe so put have no proof. But this topic has
>>>>>>>>> been discussed here over and over again. The reason I have
>>>>>>>>> posted this is because emtech is a big cisco player, and a big
>>>>>>>>> training institute. If they are
>>>>> doing
>>>>>>>>> this
>>>>>>>>> openly, blatantly, in front of Cisco's eyes and ears, than
>>>>>>>>> this is definitely a show stopper.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> How can something like this be ignored by cisco I have
>>>>>>>>> already reported this , lets see what happens.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Ahmed
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 11 Dec 2012, at 00:02, Steve Di Bias <sdibias_at_gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Ahmed, are you certain they are selling dumps like you
>>>>>>>>> suggest? If
>>>> so
>>>>>>>>> report them to Cisco
>>>> http://www.cisco.com/web/learning/le3/ccie/exam/violation_rules.html
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Cheers!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Dec 10, 2012 at 7:46 AM, Ahmed <ahmedsalim_at_gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I've received the below email . This is both a cisco partner
>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>> a
>>>>>>>>> training
>>>>>>>>>> institute. This looks highly highly suspicious. Can we/Cisco
>>>>>>>>>> do something about this and stop this non-sense.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I'm forwarding it as received.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Ahmed
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>>>>>>>>>> From: S.P Menon <spmenon_at_emtech.ae>
>>>>>>>>>> Date: Mon, Dec 10, 2012 at 9:12 AM
>>>>>>>>>> Subject: CCIE with Pass Guarantee
>>>>>>>>>> To: "S.P Menon" <spmenon_at_emtech.ae>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> *CCIE R&S with Passing Guarantee*
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> ** **
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> ** **
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> This is an 11 days Program. We need you to be present at the
>>>>>>>>>> institute
>>>>>>>>> all
>>>>>>>>>> these days before your exams. There would be 3 model exams
>>>>>>>>>> that
>>>> we
>>>>>>>>> provide
>>>>>>>>>> and you will have to clear at least 2 exams for you to
>>>>>>>>>> qualify
>>>> for
>>>>>>>>>> this
>>>>>>>>>> program. Once you qualify for this program, If you do not
>>>>>>>>>> pass
>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>> CCIE
>>>>>>>>> Lab
>>>>>>>>>> Exam in the first attempt, we will reimburse you the Lab
>>>>>>>>>> Exam fee
>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>> USD
>>>>>>>>>> 1500.00 once you produce the confirmation that you have
>>>>>>>>>> booked
>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>> CCIE
>>>>>>>>> Lab
>>>>>>>>>> Exam for the second time.****
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> ** **
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Following is the daily plan of action for this program;****
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> ** **
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> **C **Day 1: Model Exam 1****
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> ** **
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> **C **Days 2 & 3: Practice based on feedback of Model Exam
>>>> 1.****
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> ** **
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> **C **Day 4: Model Exam 2****
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> ** **
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> **C **Days 5 & 6: Practice based on feedback of Model Exam
>>>> 2****
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> ** **
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> **C **Day 7: Model Exam 3.****
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> ** **
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> **C **Days 8, 9 & 10: Practice based on feedback of Model
>> Exam
>>>>>>>>>> 3****
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> ** **
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> **C **Day 11: Final Discussions before CCIE Lab Exam based
>> on
>>>> all
>>>>>>>>>> feedbacks & corrective actions taken.****
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> ** **
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> ** **
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> These Model Exams cost AED 800.00 each and in case you are
>>>>>>>>>> unable
>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>> clear
>>>>>>>>>> 2 out of 3, you may take extra lab exams by making extra
>>>>>>>>>> payment
>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>> AED
>>>>>>>>>> 800.00 per lab.****
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> ** **
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> ** **
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> * *
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Best Regards,****
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> * *
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> *Sreejith Menon
>>>>>>>>>> Key Account Manager - Corporate Training Emtech Computer
>>>>>>>>>> Institute P.O. Box 28023, Dubai, UAE*
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> *Cell: +97155 4526680
>>>>>>>>>> Tel: +9714 3583005 Ext: 302
>>>>>>>>>> Fax: +9714 3583321
>>>>>>>>>> URL: www.emtech.ae*
>>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>>> ****
>>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> *EMTECH COMPUTER CO. LLC** / *P. O. Box : 28023, Dubai,
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