Re: CCIE with Pass Guarantee

We did like 4 years back to cisco, with more details like
proctor involved and also the other details but nothing happen : )

I wish best of luck to Narbik to raise the voice to cisco.

On Wed, Dec 12, 2012 at 2:37 PM, Jumma <jummavision_at_gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi Narbic,
>
> I really appreciate your contribution in networking
>
> If u really wana bust just bust
>
> Www.cciecert.net
>
> They are in Korea
>
> More detail can be provides
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On 11/12/2012, at 1:37 PM, Narbik Kocharians <narbikk_at_gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > I would LOVE to know the list, because I can stop them.
> >
> > On Mon, Dec 10, 2012 at 5:43 PM, Adesh Chaudhary <
> > er.adeshchaudhary_at_gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Dear Tim,
> >>
> >> Neither I mean to offend, Nor I am judging anyone.
> >>
> >> There are X number of vendors out there that are supplying these labs
> for
> >> many years, that too along with Guarantees. let me know if you want a
> list?
> >>
> >> You think Cisco is unaware of them? If Yes, I'd say WoWwwwww... If I am
> >> being apathaetic, What is Cisco doing? Don't they know how to google or
> >> what? Why don't they change the labs that frequently? If No, What did
> they
> >> do about it? Maybe something without results, I don't know.
> >>
> >> Come on... they took jeremy cioara's blog down few years back, you think
> >> they can't take on these sites?
> >>
> >> I make my choices, you make yours, others will choose for themselves.
> End
> >> of the story.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Tue, Dec 11, 2012 at 6:35 AM, Tim Cribbs Jr. <tmcribbs_at_gmail.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>> I think we all have a solid understanding of what happens in
> >>> interviews to those who dump, no hidden fact. But lots of us DO care
> >>> about this topic, so to be so apathetic about it says a lot about you.
> >>>
> >>> ...LOL
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Mon, Dec 10, 2012 at 5:44 PM, Adesh Chaudhary
> >>> <er.adeshchaudhary_at_gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>> ccie exam has limited sets, No hidden fact. What if I give you mock
> >>>> questions with same topology (replace Ethernet with serial or
> whatever)
> >>> and
> >>>> similar IP's (replace subnet X with Y) & I think that should be
> enough.
> >>> They
> >>>> are Cisco Partners... If using dumps, I believe they'd have found a
> >>>> workaround OR dont know OR dont care OR whatever. For those who will
> >>> pass,
> >>>> will struggle in interviews OR even get a job but what next ???
> >> Struggle
> >>> to
> >>>> justify their number... or would it be easier to hide OR may be do
> >>> another
> >>>> one the same way... LOL
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> On Tue, Dec 11, 2012 at 2:39 AM, Tim Cribbs Jr. <tmcribbs_at_gmail.com>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I think what he is saying is - if a company claims that they can
> teach
> >>>>> you the entire blueprint in 11 days - with a guarantee - that it is
> >>>>> way too suspicious. The guarantee just makes it more suspicious.
> >>>>> Anyone can claim to teach you the blueprint in 11 days, but to
> >>>>> guarantee passing based on having you take just a couple "practice"
> >>>>> labs makes it plainly obvious. I really don't know what the
> confusion
> >>>>> is on this...
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Tim
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On Mon, Dec 10, 2012 at 3:46 PM, Haroon <itguy.pro_at_gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>> Ahmed,
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> so, what is the problem with the guarantee? Are you saying that even
> >>>>>> though
> >>>>>> they offer a guarantee, you still can't pass the lab? There is a
> >> hint
> >>> in
> >>>>>> there somewhere. ;)
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> On Mon, Dec 10, 2012 at 3:39 PM, Ahmed <ahmedsalim_at_gmail.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> I certainly believe so put have no proof. But this topic has been
> >>>>>>> discussed
> >>>>>>> here over and over again. The reason I have posted this is because
> >>>>>>> emtech
> >>>>>>> is a big cisco player, and a big training institute. If they are
> >>> doing
> >>>>>>> this
> >>>>>>> openly, blatantly, in front of Cisco's eyes and ears, than this is
> >>>>>>> definitely a show stopper.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> How can something like this be ignored by cisco I have already
> >>>>>>> reported
> >>>>>>> this , lets see what happens.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Ahmed
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> On 11 Dec 2012, at 00:02, Steve Di Bias <sdibias_at_gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Ahmed, are you certain they are selling dumps like you suggest? If
> >> so
> >>>>>>> report them to Cisco
> >> http://www.cisco.com/web/learning/le3/ccie/exam/violation_rules.html
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Cheers!
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> On Mon, Dec 10, 2012 at 7:46 AM, Ahmed <ahmedsalim_at_gmail.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> I've received the below email . This is both a cisco partner and
> >> a
> >>>>>>> training
> >>>>>>>> institute. This looks highly highly suspicious. Can we/Cisco do
> >>>>>>>> something
> >>>>>>>> about this and stop this non-sense.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> I'm forwarding it as received.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Ahmed
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> >>>>>>>> From: S.P Menon <spmenon_at_emtech.ae>
> >>>>>>>> Date: Mon, Dec 10, 2012 at 9:12 AM
> >>>>>>>> Subject: CCIE with Pass Guarantee
> >>>>>>>> To: "S.P Menon" <spmenon_at_emtech.ae>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> *CCIE R&S with Passing Guarantee*
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> ** **
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> ** **
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> This is an 11 days Program. We need you to be present at the
> >>>>>>>> institute
> >>>>>>> all
> >>>>>>>> these days before your exams. There would be 3 model exams that
> >> we
> >>>>>>> provide
> >>>>>>>> and you will have to clear at least 2 exams for you to qualify
> >> for
> >>>>>>>> this
> >>>>>>>> program. Once you qualify for this program, If you do not pass
> >> the
> >>>>>>>> CCIE
> >>>>>>> Lab
> >>>>>>>> Exam in the first attempt, we will reimburse you the Lab Exam fee
> >>> of
> >>>>>>>> USD
> >>>>>>>> 1500.00 once you produce the confirmation that you have booked
> >> the
> >>>>>>>> CCIE
> >>>>>>> Lab
> >>>>>>>> Exam for the second time.****
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> ** **
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Following is the daily plan of action for this program;****
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> ** **
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> **C **Day 1: Model Exam 1****
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> ** **
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> **C **Days 2 & 3: Practice based on feedback of Model Exam
> >> 1.****
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> ** **
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> **C **Day 4: Model Exam 2****
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> ** **
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> **C **Days 5 & 6: Practice based on feedback of Model Exam
> >> 2****
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> ** **
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> **C **Day 7: Model Exam 3.****
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> ** **
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> **C **Days 8, 9 & 10: Practice based on feedback of Model Exam
> >>>>>>>> 3****
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> ** **
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> **C **Day 11: Final Discussions before CCIE Lab Exam based on
> >> all
> >>>>>>>> feedbacks & corrective actions taken.****
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> ** **
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> ** **
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> These Model Exams cost AED 800.00 each and in case you are unable
> >>> to
> >>>>>>> clear
> >>>>>>>> 2 out of 3, you may take extra lab exams by making extra payment
> >> of
> >>>>>>>> AED
> >>>>>>>> 800.00 per lab.****
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> ** **
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> ** **
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> * *
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Best Regards,****
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> * *
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> *Sreejith Menon
> >>>>>>>> Key Account Manager - Corporate Training
> >>>>>>>> Emtech Computer Institute
> >>>>>>>> P.O. Box 28023, Dubai, UAE*
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> *Cell: +97155 4526680
> >>>>>>>> Tel: +9714 3583005 Ext: 302
> >>>>>>>> Fax: +9714 3583321
> >>>>>>>> URL: www.emtech.ae*
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> [image: Description: Description:
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> >> http://www.facebook.com/pages/Emtech-Group/129228590532746?ref=hl>
> >>>>>>>> ****
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> [image: cid:image001.jpg_at_01CD59C7.838492C0]****
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> *EMTECH COMPUTER CO. LLC** / *P. O. Box : 28023, Dubai, U.A.E.
> >> */*
> >>>>>>>> Tel. :
> >>>>>>>> +971
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> >>>>>>>> **infodxb_at_emtech.ae*<emtech_at_eim.ae>
> >>>>>>>> ****
> >>>>>>>>
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