Re: Groupbuy for passccielab in India

Iqbal,

Do not ask Narbik to not take offence at your comments. It is impossible
for someone with his standing in the certification community, to not feel
insulted when comments such as yours are bandied around. Even if you are
signifying that all you are doing is telling it as it is.

Narbik is the real deal. I have attended his bootcamp. The way he teaches
depicts his knowledge and experience. Telling him he cant prove that he did
a shonky on getting his number is just exhibiting your ignorance.

Let's end it here and just go back to our original goal of studying hard
and earning that number.....

Ali

On Thu, Jul 5, 2012 at 11:09 PM, Ronnie Angello <ronnie.angello_at_gmail.com>wrote:

> Unbelievable
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Jul 5, 2012, at 8:58 AM, Ovais Iqbal <ovais.iqball_at_yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > Dear Narbik,
> >
> > You passed the lab when almost everyone was passing :-) The real
> > labs were there. No matter how much you want to deny it, they were there.
> >
> > I
> > dont need to know you well enough to make this statement. Its just a
> matter of
> > fact. I am not saying you cheated, but you can never prove you didnt :-)
> >
> > No
> > offense narbik, this is the way it is
> >
> >
> >
> > ________________________________
> > From: Narbik Kocharians <narbikk_at_gmail.com>
> > To: Ovais Iqbal
> > <ovais.iqball_at_yahoo.com>
> > Cc: Dale Shaw <dale.shaw_at_gmail.com>; Marko
> > Milivojevic <markom_at_ipexpert.com>; "ccielab_at_groupstudy.com"
> > <ccielab_at_groupstudy.com>
> > Sent: Wednesday, July 4, 2012 11:26 PM
> > Subject: Re:
> > Groupbuy for passccielab in India
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Iqbal,
> > Sir everything is ambiguous and
> > blurred now-a-days. Any one who passes the lab, cant prove that they
> didnt use
> > the real labs. Not even you
> >
> >
> > When i took the lab, we did not have real labs
> > or any other crap like that, so please do not EVEN mention that, not
> even as
> > an example, NEVER. You do not know me well enough.
> >
> > Have a good day sir.
> > On Wed, Jul 4, 2012 at 11:12 AM, Ovais Iqbal <ovais.iqball_at_yahoo.com>
> wrote:
> > Dear Narbik,
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Dont take it offensive but were you there with your
> > students 24/7 in their lives ? i mean how can you be so sure that they
> didnt
> > use any of the real labs out there ? just because they are hardworking
> and
> > they performed well in your bootcamp/mock labs still leaves the fear
> that what
> > if we fail the lab ? I am not saying your students (the one you
> mentioned)
> > cheated but sorry there is no way they can ever prove they didnt. Period.
> >>
> >>
> >> Now, as you mentioned that they will surely be spotted in interview or
> during
> > their job tasks ? Sorry but you are wrong here too. I know 3 engineers
> (my
> > fellow country man) whose resumes are by far most impressive then many so
> > called GENUINE CCIEs, and they know their stuff. One of the DUMPER (one
> of
> > these 3 guys) were interviewed by a pannel of 7 ppl (with couple ccie's
> among
> > them) and he got selected. But he was a dumper !! so where does your
> theory
> > goes now that he wont perform in the real life ? and he was also your
> student,
> > cant take his name for obvious reasons now.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Sir everything is ambiguous
> > and blurred now-a-days. Any one who passes the lab, cantprove that they
> didnt
> > use the real labs. Not even you :-)
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Guys, this discussion has been
> > raised so many times and everyone start jumping in, claiming (indirectly
> > almost) that they or their students never cheated or they dont even know
> that
> > real labs exist.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> No offense to anyone :-)
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> ________________________________
> >> From: Narbik Kocharians
> > <narbikk_at_gmail.com>
> >> To: Dale Shaw <dale.shaw_at_gmail.com>
> >> Cc: Marko
> > Milivojevic <markom_at_ipexpert.com>; "ccielab_at_groupstudy.com"
> > <ccielab_at_groupstudy.com>
> >> Sent: Wednesday, July 4, 2012 8:42 AM
> >>
> >> Subject:
> > Re: Groupbuy for passccielab in India
> >>
> >>
> >> One of my students proved to me
> > that this guy is from India and he did
> >> cheat in his written exam, apparently
> > he proudly mentioned it in one of his
> >> posts in this particular forum.
> >>
> >> That
> > is bad, this can make anyone angry. But please don't be disappointed,
> >> there
> > are cheaters every where, but these guys do not last long, because
> >> sooner or
> > later they have to find a job and they will not be able to
> >> perform at a CCIE
> > level.
> >>
> >> Two of my students passed recently without cheating at all:
> >> *Kevin
> > Huff #**35841*
> >> *Amrik Singh #35824*".
> >>
> >>
> >> These guys worked very hard, if
> > you work hard you will succeed, you don't
> >> need to cheat at all.
> >>
> >> On Tue,
> > Jul 3, 2012 at 8:17 PM, Narbik Kocharians <narbikk_at_gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>> How
> > do you know that this guy is from India, China or Russia?
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Tue,
> > Jul 3, 2012 at 7:50 PM,
> > Dale Shaw <dale.shaw_at_gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Hi
> > Narbik,
> >>>>
> >>>> On Wed, Jul 4, 2012 at 10:56 AM, Narbik Kocharians
> > <narbikk_at_gmail.com>
> >>>> wrote:
> >>>>> Marko,
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Don't be tired of
> > hearing the truth, first of all how do you know where
> >>>>> they are coming
> > from?
> >>>>
> >>>> Surely you're not suggesting that there is no pattern in the
> > origin of
> >>>> the names of people posting questions relating to dodgy CCIE
> >>>>
> > preparation material. Surely.
> >>>>
> >>>>> To name three countries with such
> > conviction, means
> >>>>> that you know for sure. Remember that you need to be
> > 100 percent sure,
> >>>>> besides, how do you know where they are being sold?
> > Just because the
> >>>> guys
> >>>>> name is Vikas it does not mean that it's being
> > sold in India, the person
> >>>>> might be Indian but he could be selling them
> > from another country.
> >>>>
> >>>> Maybe, but how long do you think the crooks
> > would stay in business if
> >>>> there is no demand? Kill the demand in their
> > biggest markets and you
> >>>> destroy the viability of their business.
> >>>>
> >>>>>
> > How do you differentiate an Indian name from a Pakistani name?
> >>>>
> >>>> Would
> > you be happier with "Indian subcontinent"?
> >>>>
> >>>> Cheers,
> >>>> Dale
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>> *Narbik Kocharians
> >>> *CCSI#30832, CCIE# 12410 (R&S, SP, Security)
> >>> *www.MicronicsTraining.com* <http://www.micronicstraining.com/>
> >>
> >>> Sr.
> > Technical Instructor
> >>> YES! We take Cisco Learning Credits!
> >>> A Cisco
> > Learning
> > Partner
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> *Narbik Kocharians
> >> *CCSI#30832, CCIE# 12410
> > (R&S, SP, Security)
> >> *www.MicronicsTraining.com*
> > <http://www.micronicstraining.com/>
> >>
> >> Sr. Technical Instructor
> >> YES! We take
> > Cisco Learning Credits!
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> >>
> >>
> >>
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> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> > --
> >
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> > Kocharians
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