Re: Groupbuy for passccielab in India

Thanks mate, which country are you going to attend the BC?

On Mon, Jul 9, 2012 at 8:58 AM, Guillermo Ruiz <gruizesteban_at_gmail.com>wrote:

> This thread started with someone that only wants the CCIE number through a
> non-ethical way and ended with a guy saying that Narbik cheats, LoL!!! One
> of the most surrealistic emails in this group.
>
> Guys, lets keep studying and forget about those cheaty individuals. I have
> enough trying to earn money to buy those amazing bundles from the real
> teachers (Narbik, INE, IPExperts, etc..) by making some family sacrificies,
> so don't care what other people does. I just want to reach the point where
> I can sit in the lab and enjoy with all the stuff.
>
> Cheers
>
> @Narbik hope to see you soon my friend ;-)
> El 07/07/2012 08:04, "Ovais Iqbal" <ovais.iqball_at_yahoo.com> escribis:
>
> Dear Imran,
>>
>> I am sure you are right about narbik since i have heard alot of
>> good things about him. I was just giving my point of view that dumps are
>> available to everyone. And no one is in the position to tell that who
>> used it
>> and who didnt.
>>
>>
>> @Narbik, dont be angry, i was'nt claiming that you cheated.
>> This would be very impolite and disrespectful. But if you did take it
>> offensive then my sincere apologies. I hope no hard feelings
>> ________________________________
>> From: Imran Ali <immrccie_at_gmail.com>
>> To:
>> Narbik Kocharians <narbikk_at_gmail.com>
>> Cc: Ovais Iqbal
>> <ovais.iqball_at_yahoo.com>; Dale Shaw <dale.shaw_at_gmail.com>; Marko
>> Milivojevic
>> <markom_at_ipexpert.com>; "ccielab_at_groupstudy.com" <ccielab_at_groupstudy.com>
>> Sent: Wednesday, July 4, 2012 11:58 PM
>> Subject: Re: Groupbuy for passccielab
>> in India
>>
>> Iqbal,
>>
>> you can doubt that most of narbik students cheeted all the
>> way up to ccie ,
>> but not narbik itself , i can tell this because he work
>> reflect through
>> knowledge in RnS areana .
>> On Wed, Jul 4, 2012 at 9:26 PM,
>> Narbik Kocharians <narbikk_at_gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> > Iqbal,
>> >
>> > *Sir everything is
>> ambiguous and blurred now-a-days. Any one who passes the
>> > lab, cant prove
>> that they didnt use the real labs. Not even you *
>> >
>> > When i took the lab, we
>> did not have real labs or any other crap like that,
>> > so please do not EVEN
>> mention that, not even as an example, NEVER. You do
>> > not know me well enough.
>> >
>> > Have a good day sir.
>> >
>> >
>> > On Wed, Jul 4, 2012 at 11:12 AM, Ovais Iqbal
>> <ovais.iqball_at_yahoo.com>
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> > > Dear Narbik,
>> > >
>> > > Dont take it
>> offensive but were you there with your students 24/7 in
>> > their
>> > > lives ? i
>> mean how can you be so sure that they didnt use any of the real
>> > > labs out
>> there ? just because they are hardworking and they performed
>> > well
>> > > in
>> your bootcamp/mock labs still leaves the fear that what if we fail the
>> > > lab
>> ? I am not saying your students (the one you mentioned) cheated but
>> > > sorry
>> there is no way they can ever prove they didnt. Period.
>> > >
>> > > Now, as you
>> mentioned that they will surely be spotted in interview or
>> > > during their
>> job tasks ? Sorry but you are wrong here too. I know 3
>> > > engineers (my
>> fellow country man) whose resumes are by far most
>> > impressive
>> > > then many
>> so called GENUINE CCIEs, and they know their stuff. One of the
>> > > DUMPER (one
>> of these 3 guys) were interviewed by a pannel of 7 ppl (with
>> > > couple ccie's
>> among them) and he got selected. But he was a dumper !! so
>> > > where does your
>> theory goes now that he wont perform in the real life ?
>> > and
>> > > he was also
>> your student, cant take his name for obvious reasons now.
>> > >
>> > > Sir
>> everything is ambiguous and blurred now-a-days. Any one who passes
>> > the
>> > >
>> lab, cant prove that they didnt use the real labs. Not even you :-)
>> > >
>> > >
>> Guys, this discussion has been raised so many times and everyone start
>> > >
>> jumping in, claiming (indirectly almost) that they or their students
>> > never
>> >
>> > cheated or they dont even know that real labs exist.
>> > >
>> > > No offense to
>> anyone :-)
>> > >
>> > > ------------------------------
>> > > *From:* Narbik
>> Kocharians <narbikk_at_gmail.com>
>> > > *To:* Dale Shaw <dale.shaw_at_gmail.com>
>> > >
>> *Cc:* Marko Milivojevic <markom_at_ipexpert.com>; "ccielab_at_groupstudy.com"
>> > <
>> >
>> > ccielab_at_groupstudy.com>
>> > > *Sent:* Wednesday, July 4, 2012 8:42 AM
>> > >
>> > >
>> *Subject:* Re: Groupbuy for passccielab in India
>> > >
>> > > One of my students
>> proved to me that this guy is from India and he did
>> > > cheat in his written
>> exam, apparently he proudly mentioned it in one of
>> > his
>> > > posts in this
>> particular forum.
>> > >
>> > > That is bad, this can make anyone angry. But please
>> don't be
>> > disappointed,
>> > > there are cheaters every where, but these guys do
>> not last long, because
>> > > sooner or later they have to find a job and they
>> will not be able to
>> > > perform at a CCIE level.
>> > >
>> > > Two of my students
>> passed recently without cheating at all:
>> > > *Kevin Huff #**35841*
>> > > *Amrik
>> Singh #35824*".
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > These guys worked very hard, if you work hard you
>> will succeed, you don't
>> > > need to cheat at all.
>> > >
>> > > On Tue, Jul 3, 2012
>> at 8:17 PM, Narbik Kocharians <narbikk_at_gmail.com>
>> > > wrote:
>> > >
>> > > > How do
>> you know that this guy is from India, China or Russia?
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> On Tue, Jul 3, 2012 at 7:50 PM, Dale Shaw <dale.shaw_at_gmail.com> wrote:
>> > > >
>> >
>> > >> Hi Narbik,
>> > > >>
>> > > >> On Wed, Jul 4, 2012 at 10:56 AM, Narbik
>> Kocharians <narbikk_at_gmail.com
>> > >
>> > > >> wrote:
>> > > >> > Marko,
>> > > >> >
>> > >
>> >> > Don't be tired of hearing the truth, first of all how do you know
>> > >
>> where
>> > > >> > they are coming from?
>> > > >>
>> > > >> Surely you're not
>> suggesting that there is no pattern in the origin of
>> > > >> the names of
>> people posting questions relating to dodgy CCIE
>> > > >> preparation material.
>> Surely.
>> > > >>
>> > > >> > To name three countries with such conviction, means
>> >
>> > >> > that you know for sure. Remember that you need to be 100 percent
>> >
>> sure,
>> > > >> > besides, how do you know where they are being sold? Just
>> because the
>> > > >> guys
>> > > >> > name is Vikas it does not mean that it's
>> being sold in India, the
>> > > person
>> > > >> > might be Indian but he could be
>> selling them from another country.
>> > > >>
>> > > >> Maybe, but how long do you
>> think the crooks would stay in business if
>> > > >> there is no demand? Kill the
>> demand in their biggest markets and you
>> > > >> destroy the viability of their
>> business.
>> > > >>
>> > > >> > How do you differentiate an Indian name from a
>> Pakistani name?
>> > > >>
>> > > >> Would you be happier with "Indian subcontinent"?
>> > > >>
>> > > >> Cheers,
>> > > >> Dale
>> > > >>
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > > --
>> > > >
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