Re: Groupbuy for passccielab in India

That's because we took it back when we had the abacus for binary
calculations. ;)

I'm going back to drinking! A day off of work will not be messed with
thinking about this!

On 7/4/12 2:26 PM, Narbik Kocharians wrote:
> Iqbal,
>
> *Sir everything is ambiguous and blurred now-a-days. Any one who passes the
> lab, cant prove that they didnt use the real labs. Not even you *
>
> When i took the lab, we did not have real labs or any other crap like that,
> so please do not EVEN mention that, not even as an example, NEVER. You do
> not know me well enough.
>
> Have a good day sir.
>
>
> On Wed, Jul 4, 2012 at 11:12 AM, Ovais Iqbal <ovais.iqball_at_yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> Dear Narbik,
>>
>> Dont take it offensive but were you there with your students 24/7 in their
>> lives ? i mean how can you be so sure that they didnt use any of the real
>> labs out there ? just because they are hardworking and they performed well
>> in your bootcamp/mock labs still leaves the fear that what if we fail the
>> lab ? I am not saying your students (the one you mentioned) cheated but
>> sorry there is no way they can ever prove they didnt. Period.
>>
>> Now, as you mentioned that they will surely be spotted in interview or
>> during their job tasks ? Sorry but you are wrong here too. I know 3
>> engineers (my fellow country man) whose resumes are by far most impressive
>> then many so called GENUINE CCIEs, and they know their stuff. One of the
>> DUMPER (one of these 3 guys) were interviewed by a pannel of 7 ppl (with
>> couple ccie's among them) and he got selected. But he was a dumper !! so
>> where does your theory goes now that he wont perform in the real life ? and
>> he was also your student, cant take his name for obvious reasons now.
>>
>> Sir everything is ambiguous and blurred now-a-days. Any one who passes the
>> lab, cant prove that they didnt use the real labs. Not even you :-)
>>
>> Guys, this discussion has been raised so many times and everyone start
>> jumping in, claiming (indirectly almost) that they or their students never
>> cheated or they dont even know that real labs exist.
>>
>> No offense to anyone :-)
>>
>> ------------------------------
>> *From:* Narbik Kocharians <narbikk_at_gmail.com>
>> *To:* Dale Shaw <dale.shaw_at_gmail.com>
>> *Cc:* Marko Milivojevic <markom_at_ipexpert.com>; "ccielab_at_groupstudy.com" <
>> ccielab_at_groupstudy.com>
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, July 4, 2012 8:42 AM
>>
>> *Subject:* Re: Groupbuy for passccielab in India
>>
>> One of my students proved to me that this guy is from India and he did
>> cheat in his written exam, apparently he proudly mentioned it in one of his
>> posts in this particular forum.
>>
>> That is bad, this can make anyone angry. But please don't be disappointed,
>> there are cheaters every where, but these guys do not last long, because
>> sooner or later they have to find a job and they will not be able to
>> perform at a CCIE level.
>>
>> Two of my students passed recently without cheating at all:
>> *Kevin Huff #**35841*
>> *Amrik Singh #35824*".
>>
>>
>> These guys worked very hard, if you work hard you will succeed, you don't
>> need to cheat at all.
>>
>> On Tue, Jul 3, 2012 at 8:17 PM, Narbik Kocharians <narbikk_at_gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> How do you know that this guy is from India, China or Russia?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Jul 3, 2012 at 7:50 PM, Dale Shaw <dale.shaw_at_gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi Narbik,
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Jul 4, 2012 at 10:56 AM, Narbik Kocharians <narbikk_at_gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>> Marko,
>>>>>
>>>>> Don't be tired of hearing the truth, first of all how do you know
>> where
>>>>> they are coming from?
>>>> Surely you're not suggesting that there is no pattern in the origin of
>>>> the names of people posting questions relating to dodgy CCIE
>>>> preparation material. Surely.
>>>>
>>>>> To name three countries with such conviction, means
>>>>> that you know for sure. Remember that you need to be 100 percent sure,
>>>>> besides, how do you know where they are being sold? Just because the
>>>> guys
>>>>> name is Vikas it does not mean that it's being sold in India, the
>> person
>>>>> might be Indian but he could be selling them from another country.
>>>> Maybe, but how long do you think the crooks would stay in business if
>>>> there is no demand? Kill the demand in their biggest markets and you
>>>> destroy the viability of their business.
>>>>
>>>>> How do you differentiate an Indian name from a Pakistani name?
>>>> Would you be happier with "Indian subcontinent"?
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> Dale
>>>>
>>>
>>>
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