Re: Groupbuy for passccielab in India

Iqbal,

you can doubt that most of narbik students cheeted all the way up to ccie ,
but not narbik itself , i can tell this because he work reflect through
knowledge in RnS areana .
On Wed, Jul 4, 2012 at 9:26 PM, Narbik Kocharians <narbikk_at_gmail.com> wrote:

> Iqbal,
>
> *Sir everything is ambiguous and blurred now-a-days. Any one who passes the
> lab, cant prove that they didnt use the real labs. Not even you *
>
> When i took the lab, we did not have real labs or any other crap like that,
> so please do not EVEN mention that, not even as an example, NEVER. You do
> not know me well enough.
>
> Have a good day sir.
>
>
> On Wed, Jul 4, 2012 at 11:12 AM, Ovais Iqbal <ovais.iqball_at_yahoo.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Dear Narbik,
> >
> > Dont take it offensive but were you there with your students 24/7 in
> their
> > lives ? i mean how can you be so sure that they didnt use any of the real
> > labs out there ? just because they are hardworking and they performed
> well
> > in your bootcamp/mock labs still leaves the fear that what if we fail the
> > lab ? I am not saying your students (the one you mentioned) cheated but
> > sorry there is no way they can ever prove they didnt. Period.
> >
> > Now, as you mentioned that they will surely be spotted in interview or
> > during their job tasks ? Sorry but you are wrong here too. I know 3
> > engineers (my fellow country man) whose resumes are by far most
> impressive
> > then many so called GENUINE CCIEs, and they know their stuff. One of the
> > DUMPER (one of these 3 guys) were interviewed by a pannel of 7 ppl (with
> > couple ccie's among them) and he got selected. But he was a dumper !! so
> > where does your theory goes now that he wont perform in the real life ?
> and
> > he was also your student, cant take his name for obvious reasons now.
> >
> > Sir everything is ambiguous and blurred now-a-days. Any one who passes
> the
> > lab, cant prove that they didnt use the real labs. Not even you :-)
> >
> > Guys, this discussion has been raised so many times and everyone start
> > jumping in, claiming (indirectly almost) that they or their students
> never
> > cheated or they dont even know that real labs exist.
> >
> > No offense to anyone :-)
> >
> > ------------------------------
> > *From:* Narbik Kocharians <narbikk_at_gmail.com>
> > *To:* Dale Shaw <dale.shaw_at_gmail.com>
> > *Cc:* Marko Milivojevic <markom_at_ipexpert.com>; "ccielab_at_groupstudy.com"
> <
> > ccielab_at_groupstudy.com>
> > *Sent:* Wednesday, July 4, 2012 8:42 AM
> >
> > *Subject:* Re: Groupbuy for passccielab in India
> >
> > One of my students proved to me that this guy is from India and he did
> > cheat in his written exam, apparently he proudly mentioned it in one of
> his
> > posts in this particular forum.
> >
> > That is bad, this can make anyone angry. But please don't be
> disappointed,
> > there are cheaters every where, but these guys do not last long, because
> > sooner or later they have to find a job and they will not be able to
> > perform at a CCIE level.
> >
> > Two of my students passed recently without cheating at all:
> > *Kevin Huff #**35841*
> > *Amrik Singh #35824*".
> >
> >
> > These guys worked very hard, if you work hard you will succeed, you don't
> > need to cheat at all.
> >
> > On Tue, Jul 3, 2012 at 8:17 PM, Narbik Kocharians <narbikk_at_gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > How do you know that this guy is from India, China or Russia?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Tue, Jul 3, 2012 at 7:50 PM, Dale Shaw <dale.shaw_at_gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > >> Hi Narbik,
> > >>
> > >> On Wed, Jul 4, 2012 at 10:56 AM, Narbik Kocharians <narbikk_at_gmail.com
> >
> > >> wrote:
> > >> > Marko,
> > >> >
> > >> > Don't be tired of hearing the truth, first of all how do you know
> > where
> > >> > they are coming from?
> > >>
> > >> Surely you're not suggesting that there is no pattern in the origin of
> > >> the names of people posting questions relating to dodgy CCIE
> > >> preparation material. Surely.
> > >>
> > >> > To name three countries with such conviction, means
> > >> > that you know for sure. Remember that you need to be 100 percent
> sure,
> > >> > besides, how do you know where they are being sold? Just because the
> > >> guys
> > >> > name is Vikas it does not mean that it's being sold in India, the
> > person
> > >> > might be Indian but he could be selling them from another country.
> > >>
> > >> Maybe, but how long do you think the crooks would stay in business if
> > >> there is no demand? Kill the demand in their biggest markets and you
> > >> destroy the viability of their business.
> > >>
> > >> > How do you differentiate an Indian name from a Pakistani name?
> > >>
> > >> Would you be happier with "Indian subcontinent"?
> > >>
> > >> Cheers,
> > >> Dale
> > >>
> > >
> > >
> > >
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