Re: Groupbuy for passccielab in India

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On Jul 5, 2012, at 8:58 AM, Ovais Iqbal <ovais.iqball_at_yahoo.com> wrote:

> Dear Narbik,
>
> You passed the lab when almost everyone was passing :-) The real
> labs were there. No matter how much you want to deny it, they were there.
>
> I
> dont need to know you well enough to make this statement. Its just a matter of
> fact. I am not saying you cheated, but you can never prove you didnt :-)
>
> No
> offense narbik, this is the way it is
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: Narbik Kocharians <narbikk_at_gmail.com>
> To: Ovais Iqbal
> <ovais.iqball_at_yahoo.com>
> Cc: Dale Shaw <dale.shaw_at_gmail.com>; Marko
> Milivojevic <markom_at_ipexpert.com>; "ccielab_at_groupstudy.com"
> <ccielab_at_groupstudy.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, July 4, 2012 11:26 PM
> Subject: Re:
> Groupbuy for passccielab in India
>
>
>
>
> Iqbal,
> Sir everything is ambiguous and
> blurred now-a-days. Any one who passes the lab, cant prove that they didnt use
> the real labs. Not even you
>
>
> When i took the lab, we did not have real labs
> or any other crap like that, so please do not EVEN mention that, not even as
> an example, NEVER. You do not know me well enough.
>
> Have a good day sir.
> On Wed, Jul 4, 2012 at 11:12 AM, Ovais Iqbal <ovais.iqball_at_yahoo.com> wrote:
> Dear Narbik,
>>
>>
>>
>> Dont take it offensive but were you there with your
> students 24/7 in their lives ? i mean how can you be so sure that they didnt
> use any of the real labs out there ? just because they are hardworking and
> they performed well in your bootcamp/mock labs still leaves the fear that what
> if we fail the lab ? I am not saying your students (the one you mentioned)
> cheated but sorry there is no way they can ever prove they didnt. Period.
>>
>>
>> Now, as you mentioned that they will surely be spotted in interview or during
> their job tasks ? Sorry but you are wrong here too. I know 3 engineers (my
> fellow country man) whose resumes are by far most impressive then many so
> called GENUINE CCIEs, and they know their stuff. One of the DUMPER (one of
> these 3 guys) were interviewed by a pannel of 7 ppl (with couple ccie's among
> them) and he got selected. But he was a dumper !! so where does your theory
> goes now that he wont perform in the real life ? and he was also your student,
> cant take his name for obvious reasons now.
>>
>>
>>
>> Sir everything is ambiguous
> and blurred now-a-days. Any one who passes the lab, cantprove that they didnt
> use the real labs. Not even you :-)
>>
>>
>>
>> Guys, this discussion has been
> raised so many times and everyone start jumping in, claiming (indirectly
> almost) that they or their students never cheated or they dont even know that
> real labs exist.
>>
>>
>>
>> No offense to anyone :-)
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ________________________________
>> From: Narbik Kocharians
> <narbikk_at_gmail.com>
>> To: Dale Shaw <dale.shaw_at_gmail.com>
>> Cc: Marko
> Milivojevic <markom_at_ipexpert.com>; "ccielab_at_groupstudy.com"
> <ccielab_at_groupstudy.com>
>> Sent: Wednesday, July 4, 2012 8:42 AM
>>
>> Subject:
> Re: Groupbuy for passccielab in India
>>
>>
>> One of my students proved to me
> that this guy is from India and he did
>> cheat in his written exam, apparently
> he proudly mentioned it in one of his
>> posts in this particular forum.
>>
>> That
> is bad, this can make anyone angry. But please don't be disappointed,
>> there
> are cheaters every where, but these guys do not last long, because
>> sooner or
> later they have to find a job and they will not be able to
>> perform at a CCIE
> level.
>>
>> Two of my students passed recently without cheating at all:
>> *Kevin
> Huff #**35841*
>> *Amrik Singh #35824*".
>>
>>
>> These guys worked very hard, if
> you work hard you will succeed, you don't
>> need to cheat at all.
>>
>> On Tue,
> Jul 3, 2012 at 8:17 PM, Narbik Kocharians <narbikk_at_gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> How
> do you know that this guy is from India, China or Russia?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue,
> Jul 3, 2012 at 7:50 PM,
> Dale Shaw <dale.shaw_at_gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi
> Narbik,
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Jul 4, 2012 at 10:56 AM, Narbik Kocharians
> <narbikk_at_gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>> Marko,
>>>>>
>>>>> Don't be tired of
> hearing the truth, first of all how do you know where
>>>>> they are coming
> from?
>>>>
>>>> Surely you're not suggesting that there is no pattern in the
> origin of
>>>> the names of people posting questions relating to dodgy CCIE
>>>>
> preparation material. Surely.
>>>>
>>>>> To name three countries with such
> conviction, means
>>>>> that you know for sure. Remember that you need to be
> 100 percent sure,
>>>>> besides, how do you know where they are being sold?
> Just because the
>>>> guys
>>>>> name is Vikas it does not mean that it's being
> sold in India, the person
>>>>> might be Indian but he could be selling them
> from another country.
>>>>
>>>> Maybe, but how long do you think the crooks
> would stay in business if
>>>> there is no demand? Kill the demand in their
> biggest markets and you
>>>> destroy the viability of their business.
>>>>
>>>>>
> How do you differentiate an Indian name from a Pakistani name?
>>>>
>>>> Would
> you be happier with "Indian subcontinent"?
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> Dale
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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