Re: CCIE certification value.

From: Scott Morris <swm_at_emanon.com>
Date: Mon, 02 Jul 2012 18:44:59 -0400

What's wrong with the old guys? ;)

 

*Scott Morris*, CCIE/x4/ (R&S/ISP-Dial/Security/Service Provider) #4713,

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On 7/2/12 7:59 AM, Joseph L. Brunner wrote:
>> older the number, the more cautious I am of a candidate I'm interviewing...
> Wiser words never spoken...
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nobody_at_groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody_at_groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of Jay McMickle
> Sent: Monday, July 02, 2012 7:16 AM
> To: shekhar sharma
> Cc: Cisco certification
> Subject: Re: CCIE certification value.
>
> I've seen twice replies coming in, and would like to offer my opinion as well.
>
> As a Technical Lead, as well as a hiring manager, I interview quit a few candidates. Most are CCIE's, or nearing it.
>
> I would like to mention that a CCIE isn't the ends to all means. It may mean that they once were great, but have moves into a role that doesn't engage those skills.
>
> Not to irritate any others here, but I'm sure some will admit, the older the number, the more cautious I am of a candidate I'm interviewing. I interviewed a double IE with a 9xxx number, that had forgotten BGP backdoor and BGP local-as (to help transition BGP numbers in our case).
>
> A skill/cert is like your windshield wipers. Don't use them and after a period of time, they won't work either. ;)
>
> It's all about the skillset that the Engineer is fresh with. I once heard that you are never as good as you once were, right before your passing of your IE (quote Narbik).
>
> To be honest, I passed 2 months ago, and I can't recall all of the frame-relay and OSPF tricks I learned as I don't work with either in my environment (MPLS, BGP, and EIGRP).
>
> Stay fresh on your skills and never become complaicent.
>
> Happy labbing.
>
> Regards,
> Jay McMickle- CCIE #35355 (R&S)
> Sent from iJay
>
> On Jul 2, 2012, at 2:27 AM, shekhar sharma <shekhar.sharma21_at_gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi All,
>>
>> First of all , before sharing anything , I want to say that I mean no
>> offense to anybody or any certifications.
>>
>> Just want you people to share your views on CCIE certification value.
>>
>> I am very upset with my experience with 3 CCIE certified candidates
>>
>> I was interviewing 3 CCIE candidates for my company requirement,
>> although I am not a CCIE ...am preparing for the LAB,just cleared the written.
>>
>> Out of three , two guys are CCIE(R&S) Lab certified and one is dual
>> CCIE(R&S + Service Provider).
>>
>> The first candidate was average on theortical knowledge on various
>> technologies that I didn't expect form a CCIE .But the main part is
>> that he doesn't have any practical knowledge on the actual
>> implementation in real world.
>>
>> The second candidate was below average on theortical knowledge ,not
>> able to answer even few OSPF questions and forget about the practical
>> part. He too was zero on it.
>>
>> Now the third candidate who is dual CCIE .He is working in Cisco. I
>> was expecting a lot from him. He was good on the technical knowledge
>> ...not as good as I expected......but again on the implementation part he was zero.
>>
>> Don't you guys think that Cisco certifications have become a
>> ediucation buisness.I could be wrong in saying that but... i think the
>> trend has changed now ....and everyone is running for just
>> certification not becoming actual IE.
>>
>> And this is affecting a lot the value of CCIE certification .....
>>
>> Again I mean no offense to anyone who is preparing for CCIE...I am too
>> preparing for LAB ,,, and some of the assumptions I have made could
>> be wrong.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Shekhar
>>
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