Re: CCIE certification value.

You'll always find a variety of folks no matter what certification or
status we are talking about. Some will be good, some will be bad, and
most will be average (which I guess is why we get the term "average"!)
It seems you have found a series of bad ones, but that doesn't mean
everyone is.

Now, there can be lots of reasons, some good, some bad... I'll go with
the more innocuous one of the fact that it's REALLY difficult to retain
the complete set of CCIE knowledge in your head forever. So just
because they have answered poorly on something silly within OSPF,
figure out why. Thrown an EIGRP question, or an IS-IS one, or a few BGP
ones. If there are deficiencies in ALL of them, then it's clearly not
just a retention problem. :)

Even when I interview people any get completely inane answers, I'll just
be like "ok, cool..." and move on to a different topic. Sometimes I'll
come back with something different in the same area just to give another
chance. Some people also don't do well interviewing.

I'm pretty sure if the goal was to come up with questions that were
tough, that someplace along the way you'd even manage to find something
that I didn't remember. (It may take a while, and it would certainly be
something I'd fix right afterwards, but it IS possible!) When
interviewing, make sure the goal isn't just to stump someone. You'll
eventually find that place with everyone!

But you need to interview within the scope of what you want to use them
for. If you're running a large OSPF network, then it absolutely makes
sense they should be good at it. I'd just chalk it up to whether they
were having a bad day or not. Keep looking and you'll find someone who
meets your requirements!

*Scott Morris*, CCIE/x4/ (R&S/ISP-Dial/Security/Service Provider) #4713,

CCDE #2009::D, CCNP-Voice, JNCIE-SP #153, JNCIE-ER #102, CISSP, et al.

IPv6 Gold Certified Engineer, IPv6 Gold Certified Trainer

CCSI #21903, JNCI-SP, JNCI-ER

swm_at_emanon.com

Knowledge is power.

Power corrupts.

Study hard and be Eeeeviiiil......

On 7/2/12 3:27 AM, shekhar sharma wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> First of all , before sharing anything , I want to say that I mean no
> offense to anybody or any certifications.
>
> Just want you people to share your views on CCIE certification value.
>
> I am very upset with my experience with 3 CCIE certified candidates
>
> I was interviewing 3 CCIE candidates for my company requirement, although I
> am not a CCIE ...am preparing for the LAB,just cleared the written.
>
> Out of three , two guys are CCIE(R&S) Lab certified and one is dual
> CCIE(R&S + Service Provider).
>
> The first candidate was average on theortical knowledge on various
> technologies that I didn't expect form a CCIE .But the main part is that he
> doesn't have any practical knowledge on the actual implementation in real
> world.
>
> The second candidate was below average on theortical knowledge ,not able to
> answer even few OSPF questions and forget about the practical part. He too
> was zero on it.
>
> Now the third candidate who is dual CCIE .He is working in Cisco. I was
> expecting a lot from him. He was good on the technical knowledge ...not as
> good as I expected......but again on the implementation part he was zero.
>
> Don't you guys think that Cisco certifications have become a ediucation
> buisness.I could be wrong in saying that but... i think the trend has
> changed now ....and everyone is running for just certification not becoming
> actual IE.
>
> And this is affecting a lot the value of CCIE certification .....
>
> Again I mean no offense to anyone who is preparing for CCIE...I am too
> preparing for LAB ,,, and some of the assumptions I have made could be
> wrong.
>
> Regards,
> Shekhar
>
>
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