Re: OER/PfR at lab exam?

Hello,

is this seminar posted somewhere online? I have lab exam 19th oh June
so it would be nice to check this topic. Thanks.

On Wed, May 9, 2012 at 7:21 PM, Mohammad Moghaddas
<moghaddas.it_at_gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi there.
> Sorry but I'm confused. When does the seminar start?
> Brian said that it will be on May 16th, but INE's reminder says it is right
> now! The timer of ine.com/live is freezed on zero.
>
> On Sat, May 5, 2012 at 8:43 AM, marc abel <marcabel_at_gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Brian,
>>
>> Maybe I missed it but did you ever send out the sign-up link? I sit my lab
>> the 18th so I sure would love to sit on your session the 16th.
>>
>> Thank you,
>>
>> Marc
>>
>> On Thu, Apr 26, 2012 at 10:34 PM, Brian Dennis <bdennis_at_ine.com> wrote:
>>
>> > The session will be Wednesday May 16. I'll get the sign-up link and
>> > details out tomorrow. I'm planning on doing about 9 or 10 hours with
>> > the
>> > session being recorded in our classroom studio in Bellevue, WA. If you
>> > can't attend the live session don't worry as I'll make the recording
>> > available for anyone to download.
>> >
>> > --
>> > Brian Dennis, CCIEx5 #2210 (R&S/ISP-Dial/Security/SP/**Voice)
>> >
>> > bdennis_at_ine.com
>> >
>> > Internetwork Expert, Inc.
>> > http://www.INE.com
>> >
>> >
>> > On 04/26/2012 08:37 AM, Jay McMickle wrote:
>> >
>> >> Brian @ INE stated he would put together an OER free session. Still yet
>> >> to be seen, but I'm sure it's to come. ;)
>> >>
>> >> Regards,
>> >> Jay McMickle- CCNP,CCSP,CCDP
>> >> Sent from iJay
>> >>
>> >> On Apr 26, 2012, at 4:31 AM, Ivan Hrvatska<ivanzghr_at_gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> I just see "include me" replays here :) What about the thing where
>> >>> everyone wants to be included?
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> On Wed, Apr 25, 2012 at 2:13 PM, Viet-Hung Ton<vton_at_integra.fr>
>> >>> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>>> Hi Brian,
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Plz include me too.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Thank you,
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Viet
>> >>>>
>> >>>> ----- Mail original -----
>> >>>> De: "Bruno Silva"<boss.silva_at_gmail.com>
>> >>>> C: "Aamir Aziz"<aamiraz77_at_gmail.com>
>> >>>> Cc: "Lazar Adrian"<adrianlazar_at_gmail.com>**, "Brian Dennis"<
>>
>> >>>> bdennis_at_ine.com>,
>> >>>> ccielab_at_groupstudy.com
>> >>>> EnvoyC): Mardi 17 Avril 2012 22:00:22
>> >>>> Objet: Re: OER/PfR at lab exam?
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Brian,
>> >>>>
>> >>>> I would like to be included as well.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Thank you,
>> >>>> Bruno
>> >>>>
>> >>>> On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 4:36 PM, Aamir Aziz<aamiraz77_at_gmail.com>
>> >>>> wrote:
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Dear Brian
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Plz include me also.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Thx
>> >>>>> Aamir
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> On Apr 17, 2012, at 9:53 PM, Lazar Adrian<adrianlazar_at_gmail.com>
>> >>>>> wrote:
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Hi Brian,
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> Please also include me on the PFR document distribution list.
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> Thank you!
>> >>>>>> Adrian
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> On Wed, Apr 11, 2012 at 12:35 PM, Brian Dennis<bdennis_at_ine.com>
>> >>>>>> wrote:
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> Since PfR/OER is relatively new to the lab exam it's not covered
>> >>>>>> as
>> >>>>>>> much
>> >>>>>>> as a topic like OSPF, MPLS VPNs, etc in most products. That being
>> >>>>>>> said
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>> I
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>> currently spend at least one full day covering it in my 10 Day R&S
>> >>>>>>> bootcamps and I cover it in-depth as getting 5 or 6 points on it
>> >>>>>>> in
>> >>>>>>> the
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>> lab
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>> exam can be the difference between passing or failing. I start
>> >>>>>> from
>> >>>>>>> the
>> >>>>>>> basics (i.e. load balancing, PfR static& BGP route manipulation,
>> >>>>>>> etc )
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>> and
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>> work into the more advanced configurations (i.e. link groups, fast
>> >>>>>>> mode,
>> >>>>>>> jitter probes, delay, PBR based upon DSCP, using PfR for sink
>> >>>>>>> holing
>> >>>>>>> traffic, etc).
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> To be honest there are a ton of strange, for lack of a better
>> >>>>>>> term,
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>> quirks
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>> with PfR that can cause trouble when someone is just starting out
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>> learning
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>> PfR. So although it may seem like a good idea for me to just
>> >>>>>> throwing
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>> you
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>> the labs from my bootcamp, that isn't going to be what you really
>> >>>>>> need
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>> to
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>> truly understand it. It would be like saying to me "Hey Brian I
>> >>>>>> want
>> >>>>>>> to
>> >>>>>>> learn MPLS VPNs" and I say "Here are a couple labs. Good luck!".
>> >>>>>>> Think
>> >>>>>>> that will work? No.
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> Here is just a few example of quirks with PfR: An access-list used
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>> with a
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>> learn list can not match IP addresses but an access-list with a
>> >>>>>>> oer-map
>> >>>>>>> should match IP addresses. When using fast mode with a learn list
>> >>>>>>> you
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>> need
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>> to use a prefix list when also matching with an access-list. Or how
>> >>>>>> to
>> >>>>>>> configure PfR to do PBR unconditionally without any OOP condition,
>> >>>>>>> etc,
>> >>>>>>> etc, etc.
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> As I mentioned there are a lot of pitfalls with learning PfR due
>> >>>>>>> to
>> >>>>>>> the
>> >>>>>>> fact it's a newer technology and went through a lot of changes in
>> >>>>>>> IOS
>> >>>>>>> 12.4T. PfR is an awesome technology and I personally love it but
>> >>>>>>> it
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>> can be
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>> complicated to learn for anyone starting out. I would venture to
>> >>>>>> say
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>> that
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>> is it one of the most complicated of any technology currently
>> >>>>>> covered
>> >>>>>>> in
>> >>>>>>> the lab exam. The documentation is 33% bigger than the OSPF
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>> documentation
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>> and it's only getting larger with QoS being added and PfR domains
>> >>>>>> in
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>> future
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>> releases.
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> I started a blog series on it (http://goo.gl/yH0ip) but have since
>> >>>>>>> decided to just write a whole document covering PfR as the topic
>> >>>>>>> is
>> >>>>>>> just
>> >>>>>>> too big to cover in a few blog posts. I currently have over 100
>> >>>>>>> pages
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>> and
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>> I'm hoping to release it around the end of the month. If anyone
>> >>>>>> would
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>> like
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>> a copy, free of charge of course, just let me know.
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> Lastly if anyone wants to come see me cover PfR in person free of
>> >>>>>>> charge
>> >>>>>>> just contact INE sales and ask to audit one day of my bootcamp.
>> >>>>>>> It's
>> >>>>>>> normally covered on the 8th day of my bootcamp. I'm in Dubai this
>> >>>>>>> week
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>> and
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>> covered PfR yesterday and have a private bootcamp next week but
>> >>>>>> after
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>> that
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>> I'm teaching in Washington, DC and Seattle next so feel free to
>> >>>>>> stop
>> >>>>>>> by.
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> --
>> >>>>>>> Brian Dennis, CCIEx5 #2210 (R&S/ISP-Dial/Security/SP/****Voice)
>>
>> >>>>>>> bdennis_at_ine.com
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> Internetwork Expert, Inc.
>> >>>>>>> http://www.INE.com
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> On 04/11/2012 02:35 AM, Ivan Hrvatska wrote:
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> Hi,
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> I just purchased ciscopress ccie r&s exam cert guide 4th edition,
>> >>>>>>>> since I had 3rd in which there was nothing about OER and PfR. I
>> >>>>>>>> must
>> >>>>>>>> say that the quality of that subject in new edition of the book
>> >>>>>>>> is
>> >>>>>>>> really poor. One config example without any explanations and
>> >>>>>>>> without
>> >>>>>>>> any topology diagrams. Nothing that can help someone to
>> >>>>>>>> understand
>> >>>>>>>> the
>> >>>>>>>> topic.
>> >>>>>>>> So, my question is how deep this subject goes in potential task
>> >>>>>>>> at
>> >>>>>>>> exam? How much time should I spend on it since it can be very
>> >>>>>>>> complex
>> >>>>>>>> feature? The book says:
>> >>>>>>>> "As you will see as you explore PfR more deeply, it is remarkably
>> >>>>>>>> powerful. As you would expect, it also has many configuration
>> >>>>>>>> options.
>> >>>>>>>> For the CCIE R&S qualifying exam, you should understand the
>> >>>>>>>> concepts
>> >>>>>>>> of PfR and how it operates and its core functionality."
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> Thanks.
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>
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