Re: OT:RS Racks and IOU/IOU XR - Was: Passed CCIE R&S lab exam!

That makes sense, because i have heard the same for XR, and soon (Next year
or so, hopefully sooner) they will have the XR emulated, but i rather see
these teams work on switches such that you can emulate a 6500 and have a
choice as far as SUP and other line cards are concerned or even Nexus
platforms.

On Wed, Jan 25, 2012 at 10:45 PM, Brian Dennis <bdennis_at_ine.com> wrote:

> The IOU that is in the "wild" is IOS based but there is a new version
> for XR (XOU?) that if I'm not mistaken just came out a few months ago
> internally to Cisco. This is similar to the virtualized Nexus OS
> (Titanium?) internal to Cisco. It only makes sense that Cisco follows
> Juniper with Junosphere as it's an affordable and scalable solution.
> Last time I talked to people internal there was discussion of accessing
> IOU online (rack rental style) or the remote possibility of even buying
> an IOU appliance but nothing was firm at the time. In fact you can
> already rent IOU from Cisco in pre-packaged labs now so why not just let
> the customer design their own lab for say proof of concept before
> deployment, troubleshooting a network issue, CCIE practice, etc. GNS3
> is often used today by some of the biggest Cisco resellers to test out
> designs but IOU would be a better option of course.
>
> Personally I believe that Cisco realized it was a mistake to give IOU
> out within Cisco as it quickly was leaked to the public and that hosting
> it themselves is a better option long term.
>
> --
> Brian Dennis, CCIEx5 #2210 (R&S/ISP-Dial/Security/SP/Voice)
> bdennis_at_ine.com
>
> Internetwork Expert, Inc.
> http://www.INE.com
>
>
> On 01/25/2012 09:39 PM, Ramanpreet Singh wrote:
> >
> > IOU doesn't support XR
> >
> > On Jan 25, 2012 9:29 PM, "Narbik Kocharians" <narbikk_at_gmail.com
> > <mailto:narbikk_at_gmail.com>> wrote:
> >
> > Brian,
> >
> > Do you really believe that Cisco will provide IOU or an XR
> > simulator soon?
> >
> > On Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 2:04 PM, Brian Dennis <bdennis_at_ine.com
> > <mailto:bdennis_at_ine.com>> wrote:
> >
> > > Cisco doesn't seem to be concerned if you know the physical
> > topology of
> > > the real lab. In fact if you attend the CCIE sessions at Cisco
> > Live they
> > > even talk about how they aren't concerned with people knowing
> > the physical
> > > topology. In Las Vegas at Cisco Live last year I heard first
> > hand that
> > > they are not concerned with vendors using the real physical
> > topology and
> > > even talked about publishing the physical topology. On an
> > unrelated note
> > > we have 25 new R&S racks being put up now ;-)
> > >
> > > Lastly in regards to posts on here relating to IOU and IOU XR,
> > I've heard
> > > "talk" that Cisco will be making it available to partners soon
> > similar to
> > > Junosphere Labs and Junosphere Classroom (http://goo.gl/2qzuh)
> > and to the
> > > general public a few months after that. This means all of the
> > people
> > > waiting for IOS XR access for SPv3 might find an affordable
> > solution real
> > > soon. Juniper's solution is only $5 per device for 24 hour
> > access which is
> > > affordable. So hold off before running out and buying that GSR
> > for your
> > > home lab ;-)
> > >
> > > Hope to see many of you at Cisco Live London in two weeks!
> > >
> > > --
> > > Brian Dennis, CCIEx5 #2210 (R&S/ISP-Dial/Security/SP/**Voice)
> > > bdennis_at_ine.com <mailto:bdennis_at_ine.com>
> > >
> > > Internetwork Expert, Inc.
> > > http://www.INE.com
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On 01/18/2012 09:14 PM, Abraham, Tharak wrote:
> > >
> > >> Imran,
> > >>
> > >> There is absolutely no wrong in gathering information on the
> > lab or type
> > >> of
> > >> questions
> > >>
> > >> Then why is it that most of the vendor workbooks have the exact
> > number of
> > >> trunk links and interface numbering as in the real lab ?
> > >> Even few of them have the same questions too !
> > >> Does that mean that you are already exposed to the lab ? NO !
> > >>
> > >> In the end, it all boils down to one's conscience !
> > >> If one has deserved to achieve it, it will stay with him !
> > >>
> > >> Congrats Nick !!
> > >>
> > >> Best Regards,
> > >> Tharak Abraham Luke
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> On Thu, Jan 19, 2012 at 1:05 AM, Imran Ali<immrccie_at_gmail.com
> > <mailto:immrccie_at_gmail.com>> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> On Wed, Jan 18, 2012 at 4:17 PM, Nick
> > Mcleod<nickmcleod22_at_gmail.com <mailto:nickmcleod22_at_gmail.com>>
> > >>> wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>> Hi,
> > >>>>
> > >>>> It wasn't my first time, it's my third.
> > >>>> In my first and second, I got different topologies
> > respectively. Until
> > >>>>
> > >>> that
> > >>>
> > >>>> time, I had known there were only two topologies for RS Lab
> > exam. But
> > >>>> 2month before my third, I got information that a new topology
> > came out.
> > >>>>
> > >>> It
> > >>>
> > >>>> was what I haven't got.
> > >>>> Who can go to take a exam without any information about the
> > exam? We can
> > >>>> get some from our friends, colleagues or Internet.
> > >>>>
> > >>>
> > >>> But trying to get topology information before exam from
> > internet or
> > >>> friends
> > >>> is similar to getting the same for dumps !
> > >>>
> > >>> My openion though , good honesty though
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> Establishing a strategy
> > >>>> based on our skill and information would give us high
> > probability of
> > >>>>
> > >>> pass.
> > >>>
> > >>>> And it is my strategy after having two fails.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Regards.
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>> On Wed, Jan 18, 2012 at 9:44 PM, Jay
> > McMickle<jay.mcmickle_at_yahoo.**com<jay.mcmickle_at_yahoo.com
> > <mailto:jay.mcmickle_at_yahoo.com>>
> > >>>>> wrote:
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> I'm curious how you know this was a new layout. Unless
> > you've taken
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>> the
> > >>>
> > >>>> lab multiple times and finally saw a version you hadn't seen
> > before, I
> > >>>>>> don't understand how you would recognize a new topology. Do
> > you have
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>> inside
> > >>>>
> > >>>>> information?
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> Regards,
> > >>>>>> Jay McMickle- CCNP,CCSP,CCDP
> > >>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
> > >>>>>> http://mycciepursuit.**wordpress.com
> > <http://wordpress.com><http://mycciepursuit.wordpress.com>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> On Jan 18, 2012, at 2:46 AM, Raheel Muhammad<
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>> raheel.muhammad_at_gmail.com <mailto:raheel.muhammad_at_gmail.com>
> > >>>
> > >>>> wrote:
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> And how do you know this was the changed lab topology ?
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> Raheel
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> On Wed, Jan 18, 2012 at 11:26 AM, Nick Mcleod<
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>> nickmcleod22_at_gmail.com <mailto:nickmcleod22_at_gmail.com>
> > >>>
> > >>>> wrote:
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> Thanks folks.
> > >>>>>>>> What I meant for new version is New config lab topology,
> > not a
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> Version
> > >>>>
> > >>>>> change. It is still CCIE R&S v4.
> > >>>>>>>> Oh forgot to write my number!
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> Regards.
> > >>>>>>>> #33691
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> On Tue, Jan 17, 2012 at 11:54 PM, Don Rajaratne
> > >>>>>>>> <don.rajaratne_at_gmail.com
> > <mailto:don.rajaratne_at_gmail.com>>**wrote:
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> congratulations man. Hey what do u mean by new version?
> > Does r&a
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> got
> > >>>
> > >>>> updated from v4 ?
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>> Thanks
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>> Don
> > >>>>>>>>> Sent from my BlackBerry.
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
> > >>>>>>>>> From: Nick Mcleod<nickmcleod22_at_gmail.com
> > <mailto:nickmcleod22_at_gmail.com>>
> > >>>>>>>>> Sender: nobody_at_groupstudy.com <mailto:
> nobody_at_groupstudy.com>
> > >>>>>>>>> Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2012 18:29:57
> > >>>>>>>>> To:<ccielab_at_groupstudy.com <mailto:ccielab_at_groupstudy.com
> >>
> > >>>>>>>>> Reply-To: Nick Mcleod<nickmcleod22_at_gmail.com
> > <mailto:nickmcleod22_at_gmail.com>>
> > >>>>>>>>> Subject: Passed CCIE R&S lab exam!
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>> Hello all
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>> I'd like to thank all here. I really happy to let you
> > know my
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> pass!
> > >>>
> > >>>> It took almost 2 years to get this certi. Yeh,,, It's worth to
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> study
> > >>>
> > >>>> for
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> a
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>> long :)
> > >>>>>>>>> The lab part I received was the new version so it was
> > hard time. I
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> asked
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> the proctor many questions I was confused about. He was so
> > kind to
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> me.
> > >>>>
> > >>>>> I want to hear other's pass, as well as want to help people
> pass
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> their
> > >>>>
> > >>>>> exam.
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>> Regards,
> > >>>>>>>>> Nick.
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>
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