The IOU that is in the "wild" is IOS based but there is a new version
for XR (XOU?) that if I'm not mistaken just came out a few months ago
internally to Cisco. This is similar to the virtualized Nexus OS
(Titanium?) internal to Cisco. It only makes sense that Cisco follows
Juniper with Junosphere as it's an affordable and scalable solution.
Last time I talked to people internal there was discussion of accessing
IOU online (rack rental style) or the remote possibility of even buying
an IOU appliance but nothing was firm at the time. In fact you can
already rent IOU from Cisco in pre-packaged labs now so why not just let
the customer design their own lab for say proof of concept before
deployment, troubleshooting a network issue, CCIE practice, etc. GNS3
is often used today by some of the biggest Cisco resellers to test out
designs but IOU would be a better option of course.
Personally I believe that Cisco realized it was a mistake to give IOU
out within Cisco as it quickly was leaked to the public and that hosting
it themselves is a better option long term.
-- Brian Dennis, CCIEx5 #2210 (R&S/ISP-Dial/Security/SP/Voice) bdennis_at_ine.com Internetwork Expert, Inc. http://www.INE.com On 01/25/2012 09:39 PM, Ramanpreet Singh wrote: > > IOU doesn't support XR > > On Jan 25, 2012 9:29 PM, "Narbik Kocharians" <narbikk_at_gmail.com > <mailto:narbikk_at_gmail.com>> wrote: > > Brian, > > Do you really believe that Cisco will provide IOU or an XR > simulator soon? > > On Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 2:04 PM, Brian Dennis <bdennis_at_ine.com > <mailto:bdennis_at_ine.com>> wrote: > > > Cisco doesn't seem to be concerned if you know the physical > topology of > > the real lab. In fact if you attend the CCIE sessions at Cisco > Live they > > even talk about how they aren't concerned with people knowing > the physical > > topology. In Las Vegas at Cisco Live last year I heard first > hand that > > they are not concerned with vendors using the real physical > topology and > > even talked about publishing the physical topology. On an > unrelated note > > we have 25 new R&S racks being put up now ;-) > > > > Lastly in regards to posts on here relating to IOU and IOU XR, > I've heard > > "talk" that Cisco will be making it available to partners soon > similar to > > Junosphere Labs and Junosphere Classroom (http://goo.gl/2qzuh) > and to the > > general public a few months after that. This means all of the > people > > waiting for IOS XR access for SPv3 might find an affordable > solution real > > soon. Juniper's solution is only $5 per device for 24 hour > access which is > > affordable. So hold off before running out and buying that GSR > for your > > home lab ;-) > > > > Hope to see many of you at Cisco Live London in two weeks! > > > > -- > > Brian Dennis, CCIEx5 #2210 (R&S/ISP-Dial/Security/SP/**Voice) > > bdennis_at_ine.com <mailto:bdennis_at_ine.com> > > > > Internetwork Expert, Inc. > > http://www.INE.com > > > > > > > > On 01/18/2012 09:14 PM, Abraham, Tharak wrote: > > > >> Imran, > >> > >> There is absolutely no wrong in gathering information on the > lab or type > >> of > >> questions > >> > >> Then why is it that most of the vendor workbooks have the exact > number of > >> trunk links and interface numbering as in the real lab ? > >> Even few of them have the same questions too ! > >> Does that mean that you are already exposed to the lab ? NO ! > >> > >> In the end, it all boils down to one's conscience ! > >> If one has deserved to achieve it, it will stay with him ! > >> > >> Congrats Nick !! > >> > >> Best Regards, > >> Tharak Abraham Luke > >> > >> > >> On Thu, Jan 19, 2012 at 1:05 AM, Imran Ali<immrccie_at_gmail.com > <mailto:immrccie_at_gmail.com>> wrote: > >> > >> On Wed, Jan 18, 2012 at 4:17 PM, Nick > Mcleod<nickmcleod22_at_gmail.com <mailto:nickmcleod22_at_gmail.com>> > >>> wrote: > >>> > >>> Hi, > >>>> > >>>> It wasn't my first time, it's my third. > >>>> In my first and second, I got different topologies > respectively. Until > >>>> > >>> that > >>> > >>>> time, I had known there were only two topologies for RS Lab > exam. But > >>>> 2month before my third, I got information that a new topology > came out. > >>>> > >>> It > >>> > >>>> was what I haven't got. > >>>> Who can go to take a exam without any information about the > exam? We can > >>>> get some from our friends, colleagues or Internet. > >>>> > >>> > >>> But trying to get topology information before exam from > internet or > >>> friends > >>> is similar to getting the same for dumps ! > >>> > >>> My openion though , good honesty though > >>> > >>> > >>> Establishing a strategy > >>>> based on our skill and information would give us high > probability of > >>>> > >>> pass. > >>> > >>>> And it is my strategy after having two fails. > >>>> > >>>> Regards. > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> On Wed, Jan 18, 2012 at 9:44 PM, Jay > McMickle<jay.mcmickle_at_yahoo.**com<jay.mcmickle_at_yahoo.com > <mailto:jay.mcmickle_at_yahoo.com>> > >>>>> wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>> I'm curious how you know this was a new layout. Unless > you've taken > >>>>>> > >>>>> the > >>> > >>>> lab multiple times and finally saw a version you hadn't seen > before, I > >>>>>> don't understand how you would recognize a new topology. Do > you have > >>>>>> > >>>>> inside > >>>> > >>>>> information? > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Regards, > >>>>>> Jay McMickle- CCNP,CCSP,CCDP > >>>>>> Sent from my iPhone > >>>>>> http://mycciepursuit.**wordpress.com > <http://wordpress.com><http://mycciepursuit.wordpress.com> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> On Jan 18, 2012, at 2:46 AM, Raheel Muhammad< > >>>>>> > >>>>> raheel.muhammad_at_gmail.com <mailto:raheel.muhammad_at_gmail.com> > >>> > >>>> wrote: > >>>>>> > >>>>>> And how do you know this was the changed lab topology ? > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Raheel > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> On Wed, Jan 18, 2012 at 11:26 AM, Nick Mcleod< > >>>>>>> > >>>>>> nickmcleod22_at_gmail.com <mailto:nickmcleod22_at_gmail.com> > >>> > >>>> wrote: > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Thanks folks. > >>>>>>>> What I meant for new version is New config lab topology, > not a > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Version > >>>> > >>>>> change. It is still CCIE R&S v4. > >>>>>>>> Oh forgot to write my number! > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Regards. > >>>>>>>> #33691 > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> On Tue, Jan 17, 2012 at 11:54 PM, Don Rajaratne > >>>>>>>> <don.rajaratne_at_gmail.com > <mailto:don.rajaratne_at_gmail.com>>**wrote: > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> congratulations man. Hey what do u mean by new version? > Does r&a > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> got > >>> > >>>> updated from v4 ? > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> Thanks > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> Don > >>>>>>>>> Sent from my BlackBerry. > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> -----Original Message----- > >>>>>>>>> From: Nick Mcleod<nickmcleod22_at_gmail.com > <mailto:nickmcleod22_at_gmail.com>> > >>>>>>>>> Sender: nobody_at_groupstudy.com <mailto:nobody_at_groupstudy.com> > >>>>>>>>> Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2012 18:29:57 > >>>>>>>>> To:<ccielab_at_groupstudy.com <mailto:ccielab_at_groupstudy.com>> > >>>>>>>>> Reply-To: Nick Mcleod<nickmcleod22_at_gmail.com > <mailto:nickmcleod22_at_gmail.com>> > >>>>>>>>> Subject: Passed CCIE R&S lab exam! > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> Hello all > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> I'd like to thank all here. I really happy to let you > know my > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> pass! > >>> > >>>> It took almost 2 years to get this certi. Yeh,,, It's worth to > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> study > >>> > >>>> for > >>>>>> > >>>>>>> a > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> long :) > >>>>>>>>> The lab part I received was the new version so it was > hard time. I > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> asked > >>>>>> > >>>>>>> the proctor many questions I was confused about. He was so > kind to > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> me. > >>>> > >>>>> I want to hear other's pass, as well as want to help people pass > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> their > >>>> > >>>>> exam. > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> Regards, > >>>>>>>>> Nick. > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> Blogs and organic groups at http://www.ccie.net > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > ______________________________**______________________________** > >>> ___________ > >>> > >>>> Subscription information may be found at: > >>>>>>>>> > http://www.groupstudy.com/**list/CCIELab.html<http://www.groupstudy.com/list/CCIELab.html> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Blogs and organic groups at http://www.ccie.net > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > ______________________________**______________________________** > >>>> ___________ > >>>> > >>>>> Subscription information may be found at: > >>>>>>>> > http://www.groupstudy.com/**list/CCIELab.html<http://www.groupstudy.com/list/CCIELab.html> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Blogs and organic groups at http://www.ccie.net > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > ______________________________**______________________________** > >>>> ___________ > >>>> > >>>>> Subscription information may be found at: > >>>>>>> > http://www.groupstudy.com/**list/CCIELab.html<http://www.groupstudy.com/list/CCIELab.html> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>> Blogs and organic groups at http://www.ccie.net > >>>> > >>>> ______________________________**______________________________** > >>>> ___________ > >>>> Subscription information may be found at: > >>>> > http://www.groupstudy.com/**list/CCIELab.html<http://www.groupstudy.com/list/CCIELab.html> > >>>> > >>> > >>> Blogs and organic groups at http://www.ccie.net > >>> > >>> ______________________________**______________________________** > >>> ___________ > >>> Subscription information may be found at: > >>> > http://www.groupstudy.com/**list/CCIELab.html<http://www.groupstudy.com/list/CCIELab.html> > >>> > >> > >> Blogs and organic groups at http://www.ccie.net > >> > >> ______________________________**______________________________** > >> ___________ > >> Subscription information may be found at: > >> > http://www.groupstudy.com/**list/CCIELab.html<http://www.groupstudy.com/list/CCIELab.html> > >> > > > > > > Blogs and organic groups at http://www.ccie.net > > > > ______________________________**______________________________** > > ___________ > > Subscription information may be found at: > http://www.groupstudy.com/** > > list/CCIELab.html <http://www.groupstudy.com/list/CCIELab.html> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > *Narbik Kocharians > *CCSI#30832, CCIE# 12410 (R&S, SP, Security) > *www.MicronicsTraining.com <http://www.MicronicsTraining.com>* > <http://www.micronicstraining.com/> > Sr. Technical Instructor > YES! 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