RE: CCIE R&S Discouraged

That's their whole culture dude - they cheat, reverse engineer ipad's, steal and do anything to TRY and get ahead... make fake Apple stores in the open,
Make fake cisco gear, Let bribed ex-Generals build high speed trains that crash (every 3 months), built by poorly trained engineers (who probably cheated there too)

I could go on and on...

They even have killed 1000's of babies with poisonous fake baby milk and people in NYC have told me about fake EGGS! (WTF!!!)

So knowing this - does it surprise you they would step over each other to scam some company's little test???

-Joe

-----Original Message-----
From: nobody_at_groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody_at_groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of De Guzman, Angelo
Sent: Sunday, December 04, 2011 8:40 PM
To: ccielab_at_groupstudy.com
Subject: RE: CCIE R&S Discouraged

Hi,

  Is suggest you report this website to Cisco and continue with your
studies.

security-tipline_at_external.cisco.com.

Regards,

Angelo # 16887

-----Original Message-----
From: nobody_at_groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody_at_groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
Trony Tigno
Sent: Sunday, December 04, 2011 12:10 AM
To: Joe Sanchez
Cc: ccielab_at_groupstudy.com
Subject: Re: CCIE R&S Discouraged

I applaud you Joe!!! You have the attitude and mindset of a true
CCIE!!!

No shortcuts and anyone that considers it should not deserve the title.

I totally understand where you are coming from as I myself failed my
first

attempt a month ago. Just keep on pushing forward (on the correct path)

and at the end you will be a much better person and it will show in your

work and more so to your peers. CCIE is a exam but CCIE is also a

community.

Don't give up and stay true!!!

On Sat, Dec 3, 2011 at 6:38 AM, Joe Sanchez <marco207p_at_gmail.com> wrote:

> All,

>

> I wanted to send a quick email out to all of you to get your take, and
to

> hopefully give me some words of wisdom.

>

> I recently took my CCIE R&S Lab exam at RTP on Nov 9, 2011; I failed
and

> I'm ok with that, I knew going into the exam that I was not 100%
however I

> scheduled the lab months prior, set my goals and tried to reach them
before

> taking the lab. I fell behind on a few of the goals that I set prior
to

> taking the exam, but I felt I needed to go ahead and take the lab and
get

> the butterflies and overall anxiety out of my system.

>

> I know what I need to do, so that my next attempt at the lab is
successful,

> and I'm working on those now.

>

> So here is the part were my discouragement comes into play and really
my

> overall mindset to stop studying for this exam and move on with my
life, as

> we all know that studying for the CCIE takes away your life for a
while.

> I've been studying for the CCIE off and on for almost 2yrs, and there
have

> been a few breaks in my studies as I have family and work obligations
like

> most of you all, "i digress".

>

> I came back from RTP and I had a few questions on my lab that I
absolutely

> had no freakin clue, so I set out looking through the CCO Doc CD and
trying

> to figure out the answers to the questions and I read every page on
this

> particular subject however, I couldn't find solutions the lab wanted.
So I

> set out in the world of google and began using search strings to find
my

> answer, and what do you know I found several scenarios from people
that

> were pretty close, so I modified my search string and began my

> seek-and-find again. After searching for a few minutes more for my
answer,

> up pops a website URL in Chinese that redirects me to a website that
has a

> document in adobe web viewer so I think lets read this and see what I

> find. I begin to read the document and see that it is a lab and as I

> scroll down I begin to see the network topology and physical and
logical

> layout and the beginning general guideline requirements and I say to
myself

> "wow, this is very familiar" as I continue reading I again say " this
is

> way to close" and as I scroll down I see a topology that looks exactly
like

> the topology I had on my Lab, so I stop... dig out my notebook, "they
one I

> drew my LAB topology in, at the airport after my LAB exam" and I say
"What

> the hell" this topology is 100% exact to my LAB in RTP and not only
that

> but 100% ip addressing, vlan names and numbers, IGP AS numbers, BGP AS

> numbers, "yes" i continued to read and yes everything, again
everything was

> 100% my LAB " I found the answer to my question". So I stopped...
stared

> at the wall for hmmm... a long time then said "Why" Why do I nearly
kill

> myself studying trying to get these digits when people are out there

> cheating, but not only cheating but killing the reputation of a Expert

> community because they feel that if they get the Digits they can make
more

> money than what they deserve. So I went home, because I don't study
at

> home as this is distraction most of them, and I asked myself the
entire

> ride home to whether or not a should continue.

>

> So I suppose my Question is to the whole community here is "should we
even

> continue", I've spent thousands or dollars getting equipment,
labbooks,

> video's not to mention the hours, but what is the point if people are

> cheating and Employers know that people are cheating, and I've seen
this

> over the last few years that some CCIE's don't have a clue.

>

> I'm frustrated, p'd off, and discouraged.

>

> I await your thoughts and reply's.

>

> Please do not email me or request that I give you the website or name
of

> the company that is supplying the exact labs, as I will make you
publicly

> known for asking in this email group and forums. Really it's not
worth it.

>

> Joe Sanchez (Chicago, IL)

>

>

> Blogs and organic groups at http://www.ccie.net

>

>
Received on Mon Dec 05 2011 - 04:23:55 ART