RE: CCIE R&S Discouraged

Hi,

  Is suggest you report this website to Cisco and continue with your
studies.

security-tipline_at_external.cisco.com.

Regards,

Angelo # 16887

-----Original Message-----
From: nobody_at_groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody_at_groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
Trony Tigno
Sent: Sunday, December 04, 2011 12:10 AM
To: Joe Sanchez
Cc: ccielab_at_groupstudy.com
Subject: Re: CCIE R&S Discouraged

I applaud you Joe!!! You have the attitude and mindset of a true
CCIE!!!

No shortcuts and anyone that considers it should not deserve the title.

I totally understand where you are coming from as I myself failed my
first

attempt a month ago. Just keep on pushing forward (on the correct path)

and at the end you will be a much better person and it will show in your

work and more so to your peers. CCIE is a exam but CCIE is also a

community.

Don't give up and stay true!!!

On Sat, Dec 3, 2011 at 6:38 AM, Joe Sanchez <marco207p_at_gmail.com> wrote:

> All,

>

> I wanted to send a quick email out to all of you to get your take, and
to

> hopefully give me some words of wisdom.

>

> I recently took my CCIE R&S Lab exam at RTP on Nov 9, 2011; I failed
and

> I'm ok with that, I knew going into the exam that I was not 100%
however I

> scheduled the lab months prior, set my goals and tried to reach them
before

> taking the lab. I fell behind on a few of the goals that I set prior
to

> taking the exam, but I felt I needed to go ahead and take the lab and
get

> the butterflies and overall anxiety out of my system.

>

> I know what I need to do, so that my next attempt at the lab is
successful,

> and I'm working on those now.

>

> So here is the part were my discouragement comes into play and really
my

> overall mindset to stop studying for this exam and move on with my
life, as

> we all know that studying for the CCIE takes away your life for a
while.

> I've been studying for the CCIE off and on for almost 2yrs, and there
have

> been a few breaks in my studies as I have family and work obligations
like

> most of you all, "i digress".

>

> I came back from RTP and I had a few questions on my lab that I
absolutely

> had no freakin clue, so I set out looking through the CCO Doc CD and
trying

> to figure out the answers to the questions and I read every page on
this

> particular subject however, I couldn't find solutions the lab wanted.
So I

> set out in the world of google and began using search strings to find
my

> answer, and what do you know I found several scenarios from people
that

> were pretty close, so I modified my search string and began my

> seek-and-find again. After searching for a few minutes more for my
answer,

> up pops a website URL in Chinese that redirects me to a website that
has a

> document in adobe web viewer so I think lets read this and see what I

> find. I begin to read the document and see that it is a lab and as I

> scroll down I begin to see the network topology and physical and
logical

> layout and the beginning general guideline requirements and I say to
myself

> "wow, this is very familiar" as I continue reading I again say " this
is

> way to close" and as I scroll down I see a topology that looks exactly
like

> the topology I had on my Lab, so I stop... dig out my notebook, "they
one I

> drew my LAB topology in, at the airport after my LAB exam" and I say
"What

> the hell" this topology is 100% exact to my LAB in RTP and not only
that

> but 100% ip addressing, vlan names and numbers, IGP AS numbers, BGP AS

> numbers, "yes" i continued to read and yes everything, again
everything was

> 100% my LAB " I found the answer to my question". So I stopped...
stared

> at the wall for hmmm... a long time then said "Why" Why do I nearly
kill

> myself studying trying to get these digits when people are out there

> cheating, but not only cheating but killing the reputation of a Expert

> community because they feel that if they get the Digits they can make
more

> money than what they deserve. So I went home, because I don't study
at

> home as this is distraction most of them, and I asked myself the
entire

> ride home to whether or not a should continue.

>

> So I suppose my Question is to the whole community here is "should we
even

> continue", I've spent thousands or dollars getting equipment,
labbooks,

> video's not to mention the hours, but what is the point if people are

> cheating and Employers know that people are cheating, and I've seen
this

> over the last few years that some CCIE's don't have a clue.

>

> I'm frustrated, p'd off, and discouraged.

>

> I await your thoughts and reply's.

>

> Please do not email me or request that I give you the website or name
of

> the company that is supplying the exact labs, as I will make you
publicly

> known for asking in this email group and forums. Really it's not
worth it.

>

> Joe Sanchez (Chicago, IL)

>

>

> Blogs and organic groups at http://www.ccie.net

>

>
Received on Mon Dec 05 2011 - 09:39:53 ART