RE: CCIE R&S Discouraged

This is not a political platform and Please donot blame whole nation because
of few.
I hope people in this group will try to focus on "study discussion".

BR-

> From: joe_at_affirmedsystems.com
> To: a.deguzman_at_ph.fujitsu.com; ccielab_at_groupstudy.com
> Subject: RE: CCIE R&S Discouraged
> Date: Mon, 5 Dec 2011 04:23:55 +0000
>
> That's their whole culture dude - they cheat, reverse engineer ipad's, steal
and do anything to TRY and get ahead... make fake Apple stores in the open,
> Make fake cisco gear, Let bribed ex-Generals build high speed trains that
crash (every 3 months), built by poorly trained engineers (who probably
cheated there too)
>
> I could go on and on...
>
> They even have killed 1000's of babies with poisonous fake baby milk and
people in NYC have told me about fake EGGS! (WTF!!!)
>
>
> So knowing this - does it surprise you they would step over each other to
scam some company's little test???
>
> -Joe
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nobody_at_groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody_at_groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of De
Guzman, Angelo
> Sent: Sunday, December 04, 2011 8:40 PM
> To: ccielab_at_groupstudy.com
> Subject: RE: CCIE R&S Discouraged
>
> Hi,
>
> Is suggest you report this website to Cisco and continue with your
> studies.
>
>
>
> security-tipline_at_external.cisco.com.
>
>
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Angelo # 16887
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nobody_at_groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody_at_groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
> Trony Tigno
> Sent: Sunday, December 04, 2011 12:10 AM
> To: Joe Sanchez
> Cc: ccielab_at_groupstudy.com
> Subject: Re: CCIE R&S Discouraged
>
>
>
> I applaud you Joe!!! You have the attitude and mindset of a true
> CCIE!!!
>
>
>
> No shortcuts and anyone that considers it should not deserve the title.
>
>
>
> I totally understand where you are coming from as I myself failed my
> first
>
> attempt a month ago. Just keep on pushing forward (on the correct path)
>
> and at the end you will be a much better person and it will show in your
>
> work and more so to your peers. CCIE is a exam but CCIE is also a
>
> community.
>
>
>
> Don't give up and stay true!!!
>
>
>
>
>
> On Sat, Dec 3, 2011 at 6:38 AM, Joe Sanchez <marco207p_at_gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > All,
>
> >
>
> > I wanted to send a quick email out to all of you to get your take, and
> to
>
> > hopefully give me some words of wisdom.
>
> >
>
> > I recently took my CCIE R&S Lab exam at RTP on Nov 9, 2011; I failed
> and
>
> > I'm ok with that, I knew going into the exam that I was not 100%
> however I
>
> > scheduled the lab months prior, set my goals and tried to reach them
> before
>
> > taking the lab. I fell behind on a few of the goals that I set prior
> to
>
> > taking the exam, but I felt I needed to go ahead and take the lab and
> get
>
> > the butterflies and overall anxiety out of my system.
>
> >
>
> > I know what I need to do, so that my next attempt at the lab is
> successful,
>
> > and I'm working on those now.
>
> >
>
> > So here is the part were my discouragement comes into play and really
> my
>
> > overall mindset to stop studying for this exam and move on with my
> life, as
>
> > we all know that studying for the CCIE takes away your life for a
> while.
>
> > I've been studying for the CCIE off and on for almost 2yrs, and there
> have
>
> > been a few breaks in my studies as I have family and work obligations
> like
>
> > most of you all, "i digress".
>
> >
>
> > I came back from RTP and I had a few questions on my lab that I
> absolutely
>
> > had no freakin clue, so I set out looking through the CCO Doc CD and
> trying
>
> > to figure out the answers to the questions and I read every page on
> this
>
> > particular subject however, I couldn't find solutions the lab wanted.
> So I
>
> > set out in the world of google and began using search strings to find
> my
>
> > answer, and what do you know I found several scenarios from people
> that
>
> > were pretty close, so I modified my search string and began my
>
> > seek-and-find again. After searching for a few minutes more for my
> answer,
>
> > up pops a website URL in Chinese that redirects me to a website that
> has a
>
> > document in adobe web viewer so I think lets read this and see what I
>
> > find. I begin to read the document and see that it is a lab and as I
>
> > scroll down I begin to see the network topology and physical and
> logical
>
> > layout and the beginning general guideline requirements and I say to
> myself
>
> > "wow, this is very familiar" as I continue reading I again say " this
> is
>
> > way to close" and as I scroll down I see a topology that looks exactly
> like
>
> > the topology I had on my Lab, so I stop... dig out my notebook, "they
> one I
>
> > drew my LAB topology in, at the airport after my LAB exam" and I say
> "What
>
> > the hell" this topology is 100% exact to my LAB in RTP and not only
> that
>
> > but 100% ip addressing, vlan names and numbers, IGP AS numbers, BGP AS
>
> > numbers, "yes" i continued to read and yes everything, again
> everything was
>
> > 100% my LAB " I found the answer to my question". So I stopped...
> stared
>
> > at the wall for hmmm... a long time then said "Why" Why do I nearly
> kill
>
> > myself studying trying to get these digits when people are out there
>
> > cheating, but not only cheating but killing the reputation of a Expert
>
> > community because they feel that if they get the Digits they can make
> more
>
> > money than what they deserve. So I went home, because I don't study
> at
>
> > home as this is distraction most of them, and I asked myself the
> entire
>
> > ride home to whether or not a should continue.
>
> >
>
> > So I suppose my Question is to the whole community here is "should we
> even
>
> > continue", I've spent thousands or dollars getting equipment,
> labbooks,
>
> > video's not to mention the hours, but what is the point if people are
>
> > cheating and Employers know that people are cheating, and I've seen
> this
>
> > over the last few years that some CCIE's don't have a clue.
>
> >
>
> > I'm frustrated, p'd off, and discouraged.
>
> >
>
> > I await your thoughts and reply's.
>
> >
>
> > Please do not email me or request that I give you the website or name
> of
>
> > the company that is supplying the exact labs, as I will make you
> publicly
>
> > known for asking in this email group and forums. Really it's not
> worth it.
>
> >
>
> > Joe Sanchez (Chicago, IL)
>
> >
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> >
>
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